New hydroponics laws take effect

[nowonknows]

This will put a lot if not all of the shop owners out of business, but it won't stop growers, they'll just go back to buying there gear where they did before the hydro shops popped up.

[BentBuddha]

Bloodshot

Where did you get that info from?

 

I'm curious because that's not the impression i got from the original posting

 

cheers m8

[nowonknows]

This will put a lot if not all of the shop owners out of business, but it won't stop growers, they'll just go back to buying there gear where they did before the hydro shops popped up.

[Innocent criminal]

Bloodshot

Where did you get that info from?

 

I'm curious because that's not the impression i got from the original posting

 

cheers m8

He may be referring to this thread... http://cannabis.community.forums.ozstoners...20laws&st=0

[nitram]

A win for ebay online hydroponics ?

Nitty.

[Innocent criminal]

Okies, just did a search around and came up with this... (from SA police website, an overview of the new legislation hydroponics_ov.pdf)

 

 

The following hydroponics equipment is prescribed equipment:

· metal halide lights, high pressure sodium lights and mercury vapour lights

of 400 watts or greater;

· ballast boxes designed or intended for use in association with the above

lights;

· devices (including control gear, lamp mounts and reflectors) designed to

amplify light or heat and capable of being used with the above lights;

· carbon filters designed to filter air within a room, or from one area of a

building to another or to outside;

· units designed to contain plants and rotate around a light source so that

the plants grow hydroponically while being exposed to a consistent degree

of light or heat or both.

 

So sales of 250w MH are gonna go through the roof

 

Sale of Prescribed Equipment

In accordance with Section 21 of the Act, a person must not sell prescribed equipment

by retail to another person unless the purchaser first produces identification as

outlined in regulations.

The regulations list acceptable documents to establish the identity of the purchaser.

Those documents are - :

One of the following kinds of identification:

· a current photographic driver's licence issued in S.A. or under a corresponding

law of another State or a Territory;

· a passport issued by the Commonwealth or another country, bearing a

photograph of the person (being a current passport or a passport that has

been expired for not more than 2 years);

· a current photographic Proof of Age card issued in S.A. or by a corresponding

public authority of the Commonwealth or another State or a Territory;

· a current photographic firearms licence;

· a current photographic licence or photographic permit issued under a law of

the Commonwealth or a State or Territory;

· a photographic student identification card issued by an Australian educational

institution; and

Two of the following kinds of identification:

· a certified copy of, or extract from, a register of births kept under an Australian

law, or under the law of the country in which the purchaser was born;

· a document issued or addressed to the purchaser by the Commonwealth or a

State or Territory;

· a document showing the name and residential address of the purchaser

issued by a public utility, a bank or credit union or a similar body;

· an identification card in the purchaser's name issued by the person’s

employer;

· an identification card in the purchaser's name issued by a professional or trade

association;

· any other document determined by the Commissioner to be a document

included in the ambit of this section.

Record Keeping

In accordance with Section 23 of the Act, a licence holder must keep records as

prescribed in the regulations in relation to each prescribed transaction occurring in

the course of or for the purpose of the licence holder’s business.

Prescribed transaction means:

· the sale of prescribed equipment (whether by retail or wholesale);

· the purchase of prescribed equipment (whether from a wholesaler or

otherwise);

· any other transaction involving prescribed equipment declared by the

regulations to be included in the ambit of this definition.

 

Records of prescribed transactions for the purpose of Section 23 of the Act are:

· the name, address and business name (if any) of the licence holder;

· the place at which the prescribed transaction occurred;

· the date and time of the prescribed transaction;

· a description of the prescribed equipment involved in the transaction including

the quantity of prescribed equipment;

· if the prescribed transaction was a sale of prescribed equipment—

o the full name, residential address and date of birth of the purchaser of

the prescribed equipment; and

o details of the identification produced by the purchaser and

o the name of the person to whom the purchaser produced the

identification;

· if the prescribed transaction was a purchase of prescribed equipment—

o the name and address of the person from whom the prescribed

equipment was purchased;

o the name of each person approved as a hydroponics industry

employee who takes part in the prescribed transaction.

The keeping of the above records will not be required until the expiry of the

transitional period.

So the standard 100 point ID check applies

 

 

The requirement to be licensed under the Hydroponics Industry Control Act will relate

to carrying on the business of selling prescribed equipment by retail, including by way

of Internet sales. Businesses who sell prescribed equipment by wholesale only will

not need to be licensed or granted an exemption.

 

and I think that means the online boys are screwed too

but I'm no lawyer so just my interpretation of it.

 

[Rocker]

I suppose it depends on whether they decide to enforce the laws.

As the laws stand they are very ugly indeed.

 

There are lots of laws passed that are never really enforced.

[BentBuddha]

And I don't see how they can enforce an interstate internet retailer to abide by s.a laws. Why would he? It's not federal and there's money to be made helping out a fellow gardener.

 

Ppl will just buy their stuff online and get it sent to safe houses.

 

Waste of time.

 

I find it interesting that they throw everything but the kitchen sink at S.A growers every year, but the price of weed is still the lowest in oz.

 

Taxpayers dollars being wasted.

[Innocent criminal]

And I don't see how they can enforce an interstate internet retailer to abide by s.a laws. Why would he? It's not federal and there's money to be made helping out a fellow gardener.

 

Ppl will just buy their stuff online and get it sent to safe houses.

 

Waste of time.

 

I find it interesting that they throw everything but the kitchen sink at S.A growers every year, but the price of weed is still the lowest in oz.

 

Taxpayers dollars being wasted.

it refers to south australian shops selling online, not shops selling to SA online.

[Budstedpothead]

Even if they made it difficult for people to buy Hydroponic equipment, it's not going to stop people buying it for the purpose of cultivation, one of you guys said it above about buying it wholesale and from oversea's

of course that would soon be noticed and stopped.

But the thing is most serious grow-ops don't buy hydro equipment in the traditional way, they often have someone else who is in on the operation but at a complete minimum, to accept delivery of the gear at a different location.

 

Most Grow-ops aren't bikies they are anybody but mostly younger people, teenagers, they find out how easy it is to grow Cannabis and how much money can be made per harvest so they take the chance.

It's for this reason that supply will never be eliminated.

Arrest 1 but another takes his or her place sooner or later, sometimes 2.

 

Besides theres allways airponic equipment, and improvisational equipment, banning bongs stops weed smoking? nope people can just roll joints, and fashion effective bongs out of empty plastic bottles and hosepipe.

 

I wonder if you can grow weed in those hydroponic kitchen top garden sets, a medical users could grow a plant or two in those for personal use.