New study links MJ to schitzophrenia.

[cybergenesis]

Another flawed study. Does not prove anything except people with schizophrenia developing are more likely to abuse cannabis and all types of drugs.. Did they even screen for other drug use? People who use marijuana are more likely to use methamphetamine. People are also more likely to report marijuana use, than methamphetamine usage.

[Paladin]

Although the use of sibling data is interesting - this study still proves correlation rather than causation.

[Budstedpothead]

Good to see other people know the meaning of Correllation and Causation

 

people like DrugfreeAustralia (Piss off American Assholes we know you wrote that "aussie" website)

try to pass off Correlation evidence as causation.

I know of one person who ate a tin of baked beans and got hit by a Bus, therefore eating Baked beans is proven to cause death!

 

you'll often find these official sources usually leave allot of holes and gaps in their claims and info, the idea is to make people reach the conclusion that Cannabis causes Cancer, Cannabis kills, Cannabis damages the brain, and Cannabis increases mental illness, but not mentioning how minor that potential risk is, so that people will assume that any and all Cannabis use will lead to debilitating mental conditions.

 

They cannot legally outright lie, that's why they use munipulation tactics, which is why i would trust the Hippies of Nimbin anyday

[nowonknows]

This is, and has been for a while now, just the latest crock of shit being used to slander cannabis. Too many people are not beleivng the gateway theory so something else has to take it's place. In one link I was given it showed a study proving cannabis caused psychosis as 1.7% of the people in the study showd symptoms. The only problem with these findings is that is the statistic norm, so if they have proven cannabis is a cause they have also proven every single last person smokes it.

[Innocent criminal]

The US media is picking this one up too, this is interesting...

 

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster_sh...-just-yet-.html

 

[Budman2012]

Send that in an email to Dr McGrath budman

 

john_mcgrath@qcmhr.uq.edu.au

 

Be quite interesting to see what he has to say regarding a few of the points you've made, along with jabez's Uk study link - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560900

 

If the government won't talk sensibly about it, maybe the people doing the bias research will?

 

Hobbez ... That made me laugh ... and actually slightly flattered , thanx. heheheh.

It would be very interesting if he actually replied to such a thing ... I couldn't do it myself but your welcome to send it away to him for reply if ya want , It's all 'Public Domain' now is it not?

I did re-read my 'notes' ... I'm pretty sure a re-wording of those statistics would show a different story rather than what they "set out" to achieve. from my understanding of their numbers it does indeed seem to indicate that your more likely to be a psychotic looney ( ) if you don't smoke Cannabis rather than having done so for 0-6 years

Heheheh , To be honest ... my shards of view would probably only serve to pierce and shatter the cause

And I agree with everyone else here. Good points all round.

 

Btw , Yeh , It went Global-Viral that story ... seriously amazing .. the day after last I mentioned it It was listed in nearly every publication imaginable ... Even the "Eager Beager Times" (no Link Sorry )

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Cheerz

[Radic]

from normal site

Report released last week:

 

February 18, 2010 - Bristol, United Kingdom

 

Bristol, United Kingdom: Clinical evidence indicating that marijuana use may be casually linked to incidences of schizophrenia or other psychological harms is not compelling, according to a scientific review published online by the journal Addiction.

 

Investigators at the University of Bristol, Department of Social Medicine assessed the potential health risks of cannabis, particularly whether use of the drug may be causally linked with mental illness.

 

Authors wrote: "We continue to take the view that the evidence that cannabis use causes schizophrenia is neither very new, nor by normal criteria, particularly compelling. ... For example, our recent modeling suggests that we would need to prevent between 3000 and 5000 cases of heavy cannabis use among young men and women to prevent one case of schizophrenia, and that four or five times more young people would need to avoid light cannabis use to prevent a single schizophrenia case. ... We conclude that the strongest evidence of a possible causal relation between cannabis use and schizophrenia emerged more than 20 years ago and that the strength of more recent evidence may have been overstated."

 

In 2007, an analysis in the British medical journal The Lancet estimated that experimenting with marijuana could increase one's risk of developing a psychotic illness later in life by some 40 percent. Following this report, Parliament in 2008 voted to reclassify marijuana as a Class B substance, making its possession punishable by up to five years in prison.

 

University of Bristol researchers also criticized Parliament's reclassification of the drug, which took effect earlier this year. They concluded: "The only important possible benefit of prohibition is prevention of cannabis use. There is little or no evidence that it effectively achieves this benefit. Patterns of cannabis use in the population appear to be independent of the policy surrounding use, and criminalizing individual cannabis users does not appear to modify their use in a healthy way."

 

Overall, investigators determined that marijuana's most significant health risk was its association and reinforcement with tobacco smoking.

 

For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director, at: paul@norml.org. Full text of the review, "How ideology shapes the evidence and the policy: what do we know about cannabis use and what should we do," appears online in the journal Addiction.

 

 

the most one could deduce from this study is that people who suffer mental illness are attracted to cannabis

this could be a way to id people who are suffering in silence

so we can get them some early support happening, and help them along their chosen path of healing

one more ting

psychosis effect 2% of the population

we are talking about 2% of the whole population of the UK and Australia

probly Canada usa, europe is about the same

most countries have very similar stats

2%

For example, our recent modeling suggests that we would need to prevent between 3000 and 5000 cases of heavy cannabis use among young men and women to prevent one case of schizophrenia, and that four or five times more young people would need to avoid light cannabis use to prevent a single schizophrenia case. ...

2% of the population

2 F*#^en %

get a grip John McGrath

alcohol has already bin mentioned many times

what about coffee, sugar,

or even........,

as rove pointed out pon national oz TV last year

 

it is safer to have a hit pona bong than to make a mobile phone call

[morphine34]

I work in Mental Health and Disability service and one can certainly see a strong correlation between heavy marijuana use and schizophrenia and variants thereof. But correlation does not equal causation. Spend a bit of time with my clients and you will see them drink copious quantities of coffee and other stimulants, smoke nicotine, eat you name it - anything to provide them with a sensory stimulatory distraction from whatever is going on for them and smoking marijuana would certainly fall into that.

 

I think there is certainly reason to think that smoking heavily when you are a teenager and your brain is still forming may have an impact on brain formation but the evidence is by no means clear.

 

Its the old chicken egg argument.

[Crunchy]

marijuana doesnt cause mental illness, but people with mental illness turn to marijuana for comfort (just as morphine34 said), same as weed doesnt make you stupid, just some stupid people smoke weed.