Internet filtering to target 'instruction in drug use'

[Al B. Fuct]

Basicfraud isnt incomprehensible- it's just fully nuts. Tinfoil hat stuff. The silence was probably just simply kindness.

[Nooby]

I'm hoping this will get canned in the HOR next year.

 

Here's how it plays now.

 

The HOR can pass it (It may be rejected by HOR if enough reps cross the floor).

The Senate can only pass it if they have EVERY senator who is not liberal vote for it, if a single independant or green crosses the floor, game over red rover.

 

Current standings per party on the filter:

Family First = For (1 Seat)

Greens = Against (5 Seats)

Liberal Party = Against (37 Seats)

Labor Party = for (32 Seats)

Xenophon = Against (1 Seat)

 

Basically, according to EFA's discussion, Labor would need EVERY senator who isnt liberal to get this passed through senate, Xenophon and Greens are already opposed to it, so it probably wont pass, not without labor giving insane concessions to liberals or independants on this (Greens wont budge, they're opposed to censorship and slowing down of internet + increasing costs). EFA says only 1 senator is needed to block this, just 1 to side with liberals and it's game over.

 

So send letters to all of the labor pollies expressing your disgust (in a nice way) and send letters of encouragement and support to those who oppose this POS legislation.

 

Also the ACL does NOT represent all xtians, they have their social agenda and they dont seem to care about the facts of the case, they are also sending out misleading letters to their xtian constituency encouraging them to write in and support this travesty of freedom. Can post a couple if you like. Most of the xtians I've spoken to in the issue are happy to change their minds when the issues are explained to them in plain English cos like most NON xtians they don't really understand the technical issues, what's really at stake and how this will not do what the govt. and the ACL claim it will do. All they hear is 'Kiddie porn and porn'= bad, filter will fix. So don't get suckered into thinking this is a just a religious thing as other governments around the world are planning the exact same thing, they're just clever enough to play the xtian lobby groups in order to leverage the large xtian vote and those groups are dumb enough (like most groups) to fall for it.

[freddie]

Shit!....

I thought this thing just fizzled down and they quietly retreated to their tax payer funded houses to use their tax payer funded internet to research more ways to control the tax payers.

I thought that Labor would have come to their senses and quietly dumped this (with some convenient excuse of course).

 

I'm a little worried about where the Mad Monk stands on this:

The Opposition doubts the legislation can be workable, although it has promised to examine it.

 

''We are open to proposals, provided they achieve their objective without unfortunate side effects,'' Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said.

 

He said it made sense to try to ensure homes were not invaded with pornography.

 

''On the other hand, I don't want to see wider censorship [or] … the internet destroyed as a tool for people's education or … businesses,'' he said.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/technology...91217-kxvh.html

This is taken a little out of context but make no mistake this kind of thing would appeal to Abbott. Most Liberals would oppose this, however. I suspect a lot of people in the Labor party aren't happy with this either.

[Indycar]

I'm pretty sure, back at federal election time. Abbott mentioned that the libs had already had a good look at it while they were in power, and it was regarded as a poor model back then.

 

With this latest statement coming from him, may see a possible backflip. Just goes to show, you can't trust any of em as far as you could kick em.

[Nooby]

p.s. www.strongvpn.com

[brick]

I may be wrong, stoners short term memory loss. But didn't the libs introduce this idea? Abbott is a worry, he is a loose cannon, he changes his mind more than a woman in a shoe shop. Sorry girls said without trying to be sexist. I know the greens will vote against it as will Xenophon. It if does happen, in time there will be someone or a group who will work out how to get around it, I am sure the scum bags who download child porn will find a way to get around it, just like the gun laws introduced by the Libs. It only hurts the innocent and law abiding (well mostly law abiding) citizens.

[Nooby]

AFAIK there IS NO kiddy porn on the web, it's all done through private netwroks and P2P which the filter wont touch. If TPTB were really concerned about kiddy porn they'd be properly funding the coppas who work in that field and then hanging the guilty purps from the nearest yard arm when caught and found guilty.

 

The filter can be easily bypassed using a vpn or tor, all this POS will do is slow down the net and stop sites like this and other sites that show that other emperors are just as naked as this one. So maybe THAT'S the type of nakedness they really want to filter, the naked truth.

[Rocker]

If push comes to shove I'm sure stoner sites can find a way around any censorship laws.

 

I don't mind a loose cannon like Abbott. Australia has too many drones in high places and as far as civil liberties go this country is going backwards at a fair rate of knots.

[Al Fish]

"Basicfraud isnt incomprehensible- it's just fully nuts. Tinfoil hat stuff. The silence was probably just simply kindness."

 

Make sure you don't confirm it then with any of the Law Schools of the internationally recognised universities listed at the beginning of Australia: The Concealed Colony, particularly Cambridge, Harvard or Yale.

Nonetheless, I'm glad to see you put the effort in and understand. The Chinese government was so unimpressed that they downloaded and copied the website several times. The Office of the Japanese Prime Minister and Cabinet sent a thank you email vis-a-vis Australia and Japanese whaling (you try getting anything out of that Office). The governments of Sri Lanka, Burma and Fiji must all be full of tinfoil hat wearers as well. Same as Michael Kirby when he was a High Court Justice and spoke to the Labor Shadow Cabinet about it. Just weird how all these different governments and individuals were so deluded. Indeed I'm still at a lose to know why Malcolm Fraser got involved.

 

Al.

[Nooby]

I thought it was a good site Al with very relevant information. (Not sure if that helps or hinders... )