what plant is this?

[sew850i]

if thats the case reddevil.. theres loads of it from the same place we found it.. it just grows as a weed. hmm

[smithy500]

Pretty bad photos, looks like poison hemlock to me, i wouldn't eat it / smoke it, whatever, if i were you, very easily = death.

[sew850i]

looks similar to poison hemlock.. but nahh its not the one, i made tea with it and im still surviving

 

must say: it made me feel typsy. thats all, im sure smoking it will produce different effects..

[smithy500]

I think you may be kidding yourself, besides you not being dead at the moment, how did you come to the conclusion it's not poison hemlock? Did you see flowers?

 

i think you'll be a poster boy for natural selection if you are not careful...

 

 

http://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/flower/poison-hemlock

http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bin/weedident....sb&card=H17

Edited November 16, 2009 by smithy500

[sew850i]

nupp, no flowers.. unless they haven't hit the flowering stage yet.. but the stems did have purple spots..

 

EDIT: on the more photos section of this link: http://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/flower/poison-hemlock it doesnt look like that.

 

the stuff i had has more more leaves all over the stem, the pics show little leaves on it.. plus no flowers so i dont think its that..

 

but thanks for the heads up mate!!

Edited November 16, 2009 by sew850i

[smithy500]

The pictures in the links cover a single moment in it's life, and of the expression of the environment of the photo area, if you've got no flowers, then it hasn't bolted to and would still be a young squat fern like habit.

I don't understand the no flower thing as ID ruling out? Do you think the plant you found never flowers? You just found it at a stage when it's not in flower.

 

I don't see any of the 'more' leaves all over it's stems in your photos, more or less smooth hollow lengths with shoots of juvenille fern like growth at tips and nodes.

 

 

From the information i can find on Artemesia afra, I can't see how your photos are more similar to that than hemlock.

[sew850i]

well.. family friends have said they used to eat this stuff back in the day, even now, its meant to produce euphoria.. they ate loads of it and they're still living man.. what i dont understand is why it looks so similar to the hemlock but we're still all live and well. ill try and get another plant and see if thats flowered yet or not.

 

peace.

[sgt_pepper]

it also looks like wormwood, which i would conclude it 100% is, since youre family have been consuming large amounts over a long period of time...

[smithy500]

100%?

What wormwood is it?

 

again, it's not afra by any information i can find. If you have another to support it i'd like to read it.

 

a brief description with foliage photos that are very different from the original posters, the foliage is more or less nothing like the original.

http://www.herbgarden.co.za/mountainherb/herbinfo.php?id=118

 

The stems are all wrong, posters are pithy and hollow and being more or less glabrous by the looks, and artemisia are thick and woody, soft at tips but still full, usually rough/corky in old plants with succulent downy younger stem tip. Artemisia are usually perennial with proper secondary thickening, whilst the hollow stems in the photo show a herbaceous annual to a biennial (with poison hemlock being a biennial)

 

 

http://cal.vet.upenn.edu/projects/poison/plants/pppoiso.htm

Bottom row, second picture in, compare to first picture of the original poster. That's hemlock you've got there.

[sgt_pepper]

ok, maybe not 100% wormwood (absinthium i thought it looked like?), but you would think that a family of long term hemlock users would notice some negative effects, not a slight euphoria...

from the basics of what youve told us, i cant see how this can be hemlock? its quite toxic in small amounts (100mg can be fatal).

unless youve got an answer on how its possible that so many of his friends/family have used it and not felt the harsh effects (i.e. death)?

some better pics would be beneficial, but my money is still on wormwood.

Edited November 20, 2009 by sgt_pepper