Fan advice, its getting hot again

[Cyclone]

Are you working on saving electricity here, therefore $ ?

 

Your logic is confusing

[The-Gecko]

So far you havent been able to work out what is the problem calaman,it simple dude : : but cyclone seem to know it all first grow a brain cyclone, That why im a refrigeration tec an your not,just get ya shit together dude , just post what i ashed for an i will try an help you out ok, Edited September 9, 2009 by The-Gecko

[Radic]

well its all very simple really

connect your fans to a varyable speed controler and that to the thurmastat of your AC

and you have automation of the air exchange rates and grow room air tempeture control

pluss hooked up like dis will then lead to

less electricity used more efficiently to do the same job

therefor it will cost less to produce the same yeild

= you save dollars

maybe

now you can afford to inject Co2

[Cyclone]

So far you havent been able to work out what is the problem calaman,it simple dude : : but cyclone seem to know it all first grow a brain cyclone, That why im a refrigeration tec an your not,just get ya shit together dude , just post what i ashed for an i will try an help you out ok,

 

Mate,

If you could construct a sentence better,

Perhaps you would not have to insult me to get your point across.

 

and in case you forgot I'm a doctor.

 

Cyclone -

[Radic]

respect

[The-Gecko]

Doctor, cyclone if you cant slow your fan or fans down by more than 10% or 20%,your speed controler has something wrong with it ???? i can slow my fans down till they just about stop turning,do you need some help in that department,I dont charge for info or help its free,

[calaman]

I hate it when people say it to me but... I havent a camera and the phone doesnt take fotos for shit.

If you can imagine a 2.4 by 2 room inside a room, sealed floor to ceiling, walls outer 2mm concrete underlay plastic then 2" styrofoam then 2mm panda inside. All electrical inc ballasts are outside the growroom in the outer room

Inside is 2 600 hoods (I always felt the coverage on the cooltubes was crap compared to a bigger reflector though i can see you r point regarding cooltubes cooling better). This is part of my problem - the positioning of the inlet and manhole where outlet passes thru; inlet comes into hoods at one end, then 'cause there is 2 hoods i have to do a horizontal 180 back into the other hood then a vertical 180 to travel over to the manhole kinda like this but in 3 dimensions(and all the corners are easy curves)-

Ive got a 150mm mixflo pulling the hoods (130LPS) and the 200 mixflo on filter (230 static). The portable aircon ive ducted the inlet outside and got a 91lps fan in the run (supply is fine as its a short run and its bleeding out the cracks). I dont want to even consider my elec usage. I did have a passive intake where the ac is drawing from outside however when i put the ac in i scraped it.

D-OH! I just realised, my supply isnt great enuf and its drawing the hot air from the outer room! So simple and i didnt even realise when it was staring me in the face.

Oh well, hoods are still hot and need more cooling and the inner room is being lengthened next week when i put the window model in. Seems to be alot of work when i gota move in april but i want to get two more pulls before then and summer is a comin...

Edited September 9, 2009 by calaman

[The-Gecko]

Hi Calaman,thanks for the info mate, ,its ok about the no photos mate i understand,a lot of what other ppls have said to you is ok info,you have refrigerant air/con that works on recycleing the cold air/that is pumped into your room an will extract the miosture from the air,1,join your light hood together with a [Y] duct section so you have a Y ducted at where the ducting leave your hoods then to your out let fan,not inline or you will just pass the hot air from 1 hood to the other hood,hook it up to if you like to air/con as well ,now put a fan speed controler on your outlet fan the main fan you use to get the hot air out of the growroom this will help you to stop drawing to much cold air from your growroom that the air/con is pumping in ,you can put one on your inlet fan as well if you like so you can fine tune the movement of air comeing into an out of thr growroom make sure the growroom is sealed up no leakage of air in or out of the room,the only air that leaves the room is from outlet fan an air/con which should by rites recycle the cold air from your growroom,dont have any pasive intakes or the air that is being forst into the room from the inlet fan will take cold air from the growroom try to make all you ducting as short as posable an as straight as posable try to get as much of the ducting so it dont have a consenteener affect in it kincky eg folded up ok an if you are makeing you growroom even bigger try to move as close to the air/con as posible an use insulated duct for the run from the air/con to your growroom,better still try to have the air/con eg the front of the air/con inside the growroom the you will not need any ducting from air/con to growroom,if you can get this done an it would be a lot easyer for you if you dont have girls in the growroom when you first start to fine tune the growroom fan speeds an air/con temp,I do hope this will help you ,oh an the air/con thermost will help keep your room at the rite temp,that is why it is inportant to have return air for the air/con best of luck calaman,all what i have told you is how i work my growroom im makeing a new one aswell 2mt x 3mt x 2,400 high ,i use to have the set up as you did a growroom with in a room ok :peace:an if you like you can draw air from inside the growroom an use it as you outlet fan just see how it all goes Edited September 10, 2009 by The-Gecko

[Cyclone]

Gecko, I was talking about Centrifugal fans, nothing else.

 

I'm not a doctor, but my point is who cares if you are a refrigerator tech?

Ok, you have to understand how airflow exchange works, and all that jazz.

but your making an assumption because you do that for a career, that I and others

wouldn't be able to understand the concept or that we don't know what we are talking about.

 

You might service refrigerators but how do you know I don't manage several houses?

 

Any way, I think this set up would move larger amounts of fresh air through your grow room.

 

 

I am glad to see you have figured out the source of your problem,

I would personally pull all the air through the carbon filter, along the lights,

and then out the house. This will give you a greater exchange of fresh air.

Splitting the ducts will also provide both lights with equal temperature air,

not hood 1 getting the good stuff, and hood 2 using hood 1's hot air.

 

Cyclone -

[The-Gecko]

HI Doctor Cyclone,radic seems to understand what im talking about ,Im not here to take the piss outta anyone an all the ppls that know me on OZStoners know that.First of all Dr Cyclone i do know I cant read or write proply,never have been able to an never will be able to,an by the way im what they call {DISABLE}I have brain damage,i was a premy baby at birth in 1955,kind hearted Doctor usely flush babies like me down the tiolet ,eg=KILLED them at birth very kind hearted hey,an said we were still born,I suffer from chronic pain 24/7 from damage to my spine,I have Glaucoma,rhematiod arthritis,an bad migrains every few days, so if you dont understand what im on about in my posts or replys,Dont bother makeing a comment,because you will get no reply from me,an by the way im not some F------------cked up Junkie because off the medication I have to take,it was a bit silly saying that what i was saying in my first reply on this post that it had to do with saveing money lmao,i said no such comment,and i didnt quite catch what kind of Doctor you are????????????? kindest Regards ,The Gecko, Edited September 10, 2009 by The-Gecko