Have i got balls?

[JustAskSally]

Hello everyone.

 

I have grown 2 plants, both were bagseed from nice bud which wasnt what i would call seedy gear. Anyways had them on flower cycle 12/12 for about a week now and have noticed that one has started developing what i think are male flowers but as i am a first time grower i obviously want to seek some advice before i do something drastic..

 

First pic is from afar of said balls (which are occuring all over the place) 2nd of the same set except i have removed a leaf for the photo, and for the third i removed the leaf and the long spikey leaf (that can be seen in the 2nd pic) growing from under the questionable balls.

 

The other plant has lots of spots developing pistils and no spots resemble this at all.

 

Thanks everyone.

 

Peace

JAS

[Smashed_As]

that looks like a hermie to me....you'll know for sure in a week.

[Budman2012]

G'day JAS,

Kinda looks like a MALE to me

Is early days I notice also ... From the photo's ... It looks like "Balls" but I couldn't be certain from those pictures alone .. it might be a Female "Calyx" ...

 

Many people seem to overly worry about propogating a "Male" plant .. in THIS reality you will have at least a couple of weeks to identify the Gender of the plant

The plant will "Obviously" be a male by the time it is ready to release Its pollen

So you can wait , or if you are confident NOW that It is a Male then do what you will with it i.e. trash it or use it to cultivate seeds

 

Btw , the "seedy gear" that you mentioned , well that has nothing to do with the properties of the seed or the plant it came from ... you can grow those seeds and what determines if whether they are "seedy" or not , is the amount of pollination (if any) that the "Female" plants are subjected to ... i.e. No Males , No seedy Female Budz

Sheesh , I could have put that better I'm sure but hopefully that makes partial sense heheh

Cheerz and all the Best for it

 

Budman

[JustAskSally]

Thanks for the quick responses.

 

What you said does make heaps of sense budman thanks for the help..

 

Main reason im askin now is not because im worried about pollinating my other plants its mainly because im really poor and running out of nutes.. ,also very limited with space and have a couple of gaurenteed clones that have been in veg that could occupy that vacancy so i think ill do the smart thing and pull it early, pretty sure its male looking at the two plants next to each other close up theres one showing promosing female traits and this one in question showing no female traits at all(although it did have stigmas through veg...i think thats what the pistols on the main stem are called areant they?).

 

Also I only mentioned that the gear wasnt very seedy at all so to say im not growing seeds from a herm coz ive read seeds from a herm turn out all herm because of the fact the seed is a direct result from the parents, also mentioned that it was good gear coz i know that quality of gear does have a deciding factor when it comes to seed like for example a shit plant with shit buds that you pull seeds from and grow will obviously have traits of the parents so growing a seed from shit weed would be pretty pointless unless you want crap gear yea?

 

Many many thanks

 

Peace out peoples.

 

JAS

[Radic]

seen

looks male to i too

seperate him from the females

naworrie

he wont drop his pollen for a coulpe of wks yet

seen

(unless he is special)

replace him now with the clones

the gear wasnt very seedy at all so to say im not growing seeds from a herm coz ive read seeds from a herm turn out all herm because of the fact the seed is a direct result from the parents

any seed from senc budz will be strictly female or hermmie

so if you plant some seed from seedless budz it will be female or hermmie

if thats waht you did, then, thats what youve got

seen

for every generation that you keep the males out

the hermmie geen will gain dommance in each successive generation

till it reaches an unacceptable level

the way to fix this problem is to give her what she wants

a real male

pollen from a 100% male plant, fully mature and with absolutley no sign of female flowers on him

once she tastes his pollen she will produce seed from it that will be stable for several successive generations

seen

 

a shit plant with shit buds that you pull seeds from and grow will obviously have traits of the parents so growing a seed from shit weed would be pretty pointless unless you want crap gear yea?

seen

the best seeds to plant are from the best buds that you love to smoke

it is all strictly personal prefferance

thats the best part

that way you will breed a variety of cannabis tailored for your use, the way it suits you best

gotta love dat

 

irey guidance

[JustAskSally]

So if its completely male and not herm it is a good idea to collect some of the male flowers before they release their pollen, dry and refridgerate it then pollinate a few lower branches of one of my 100% females to get some good genetic diversity in the seed?

 

But is what your saying that if i grew from bagseed it will either be herm of female not 100% male and not worth keeping.?

 

Thanks like i said i am a first timer and not sure of these things, been in environmental sector for years now so i do have a good idea of how important genetic diversity, and just how much human involvement with things like selective breeding can reduce the gene pool, like whats happening with all our supermarket bought produce . Or our pedegree animals, or our lovely royal family.

 

Thanks heaps for the info i appreciate it greatly.

 

JAS

[BaronS]

unless you know the history of the bag the seed came from it's stupid to make _any_ assumptions about its parentage.

 

I have two strains in the garden, both appearing to be girls. If I let them go hermie and use the pollen from G1 to seed G2 should I get (mostly) boys, girls, or poofters?

[JustAskSally]

By poofters im guessing you mean herm.

 

Are you saying if you force you female to produce balls then use them to polinate your other head what will you get? or are you saying that if plant 1 becomes herm and produces flowers and you polinated plant 2 with that pollen what will you get??

 

Im guessing if you pollinate a herm with polllen from a herm, umm youll get poofters all the way?

Is that what your saying?

Peace

[BaronS]

My political correctness probably needs some work.

 

The worst part is that there is so much conflict from otherwise dependable sources. I've variously read that self pollination will:

1) give 100% hermies.

2) give 100% females.

3) give mostly hermy and some female.

 

Though I'm interested in the idea of crosspollination between my strains (yes, I actually do have 2 in the garden) I was more trying to point out the ridiculousness of the question. I have what appear to be females, so far, from unknown bagseed, one's Sativa dominant and the other appears to have a bit more Indica in it. Beyond that I'm not making any assumptions.

[Radic]

So if its completely male and not herm it is a good idea to collect some of the male flowers before they release their pollen, dry and refridgerate it then pollinate a few lower branches of one of my 100% females to get some good genetic diversity in the seed?

yes

100%male X 100%female = 100%stability

and expect 50%males and 50%females

 

But is what your saying that if i grew from bagseed it will either be herm of female not 100% male and not worth keeping.?

to i bag seed has unknown heritage there for totally unpredictable

lucky dip

only clue is

was the bag seed from sencie<---> seedless heads??????????

if you dont know at least that

than its lucky dip time

but if you do know that it was sencie then

than it has inbread that seed from it self

therefor

100% female X 100% female = unstable inbread hermmie

 

if you take the pollen from one female plant and give it to an other female plant

tings start to get complex from here on

that is called line breeding

and line breeding is still dodgy

it can go either way

even tho

line breeding is considered a good way to extract trates from one strain and implant them into another strain

but

it is only part of the process

a stable variety can be produced from an line bread plant

 

 

irey guidance