Female seeds

[hydroheven]

an F1 generation when referring to cannabis anyway just means a hybrid of any 2 strains.

F2 means seeds were made from the F1 parents

F3 is when a grower keeps a mother plant from the original F1 generation and then backcrosses a male from the F2 generation to it. it can be done the other way around, but its easier keeping females alive.

F4, F5, etc all mean the same as F3, its just you use the latest generation of seeds to find a male to cross back to the original F1 mother plant.

 

there is however another view to it which is a continuation of F2 seeds in my opinion. basically you just let a male seed up a female every generation and each generation gets a higher number. personally i believe this method is good for keeping the genetics varied a little, but the first way of breeding i mentioned will yield virtually genetically identical plants after only the 5th generation of seeds which is how proper strains get created in my opinion anyway. my reasoning behind that is if you make seeds which grow plants that are 95% or more the same you can be sure of getting a uniform crop in potency, size, smell, taste, etc. unfortunately though alot of breeding is done by crossing F1s together because they grow faster, yield more, etc. due to hybrid vigor. this means instead of getting say northern lights x skunk which would normally be a fairly stable hybrid, you end up with 2 strains crossed to another 2 strains and the end result from that is a mixed basket of genetics that shows it off before long seeds like that can be really hit and miss due to the wild genetic differences between individuals from the same family, but thats not to say you wont find a special plant in the mix...cannabis just throws a few plants in there like that to mess with out heads so we continue breeding it

 

 

 

nice one thanks .

i grew seeds from F1 corn once and i ended up with a garden full of mutant corn plants , funnyest thing if seen ( in the garden) .

[hydroheven]

haha smarty you know what I mean, seeds had to have come from hermi plant, so.....?

 

THC

 

ive used seeds from hermi plants and thay grow hermi plants .

not worth keeping them going IMO

[WantDaChronic]

Ok then, so if one of my celtic berry crowns dropped five seeds, and all plants in the room were female, they should be fem seeds?? not sure if they are cbxcb or cbxww orcbxskunk#1

unless all the plants are seeded it stands to reason that the celtic berry put out a male flower or 2 which then seeded it up. the seeds should be genetically identical to that plant although nature likes to mix things up a little so there could be a slight amount of difference between the original plant and the ones grown from the seeds.

 

personally though i would bin the seeds. since the original plant went ever so slightly hermie those seeds will more than likely carry that same trait

[re-Peter]

I think joints n roaches wanted to grow a female plant not a female seed .

Add agricultural lime to your soil dude.

[HappyJay]

Femed seed by quality breeders are prooven to be worth it, otherwise why would thousends upon thousends of folks keep buying em. Dont you think that if Hermis were so consistant and strains unreliable, the larger community of canna growers would have put up a stink and stopped em. Growers reps are there selling point and most seed banks will drop a strain if too many customers report hermies, such as MullumMadmans so called Mullummadness normal beans.

 

Apart from the genetics of the beans and the quality of environment, the best way to try achieve the most girls from the beans is to give em lots of blue spectrum, N levels and good temperature in there erlier growth. Hermis either appear through bad genetics (hermi pollination), poor and erradic environmental conditions, light leaks or saturation during flower or left way past there maturation time and there just trying to produce seed before the season finishes.

Personaly I dont believe there are any dips or gels etc worth buying to influence females rather then males.

I have used GA on many occasion to produce my own femed seeds and Ive never had a complaint or even a single coment on hermies.

I also have personally grown out quite a few packs of femed seeds and never once had a hermi.

Only hermi I ever had was a bagseed unknown in my first ever grow, switched to quality genetics, never seen another except for on these forums.

My .02c anyways.

HJ

[WantDaChronic]

plants cant be turned into females using a different spectrum of light or changing the medium they're grown in. sex is determined when the male pollen enters a female flower. just like in humans when a sperm meets an egg, its all genetically determined at the time of conception.

 

stressing the plant or using chemicals like that acid is a different matter though and while feminized seeds can be very beneficial to growers not wanting to deal with males, i personally believe its a much better breeding practice to use both a male and female plant instead of going against nature. In the end nature always wins which is why even normally great strains that have been grown for years can start spitting out the odd male flower here and there. its only a matter of time until the feminized strains start doing the same thing as they are only a recent creation and i tell you what if a normal female can self seed i hate to imagine how bad a feminized strain could go