Female seeds

[JointsNRoaches]

Hi.

 

In the next few weeks im going to order some seeds from attitude (1 feminized strawberry cough, i get a pack of 5 super skunk with that as well) and i want to use them for my first guerilla grow. I was wondering if there is anyway i can make it more likely that my seeds will become female. I know that is not an issue for the strawberry cough but what about the normal super skunk seeds? I only wanted to plant one or two of them so id have 2 or three plants growing. That way il have to carry less water and make fewer trips and also il have a couple of seeds saved. Is there anything i can do?

[WantDaChronic]

in order to change the sex of the plant you can either stress it out beyond belief which in most cases will just give you a hermie plant anyway or you can use chemicals which will alter the dna of the seeds before they are sprouted or will give heaps of the female chemicals to try and force them to put out female flowers...personally i believe any of those options is not only a waste of time and money, its cant be any good for the plants or you either

 

if you want to make the most out of the strains you have purchased than there is 2 ways to go about it.

1) grow out all the seeds, take cuttings of only the females and after harvest you keep only the best female of each strain

2) you use a male from each strain to make F2 generation seeds. that just means SC x SC or SS x SS

 

if you take cuttings from the best plants you can then keep them as mother plants. from there its just a matter of keeping the plant in vege and you'll be able to take as many cuttings from it as you want. 1 plant can literally turn into thousands, its just a matter of time, patience and a tiny bit of practice that even a total newb can pretty much master the first time around

 

if you decide to make an F2 generation of seeds you could pull 5000-10000 seeds from each female plant. personally i think making seeds is a great idea because it allows you to share them with friends and family both in australia an overseas...it can also preserve the genetics for a good 5 years or more if stored correctly which can negate the need for mother plants and the equipment to keep them alive.

 

there is a third option...grow out all the seeds, pick the best male and female from each strain, take cuttings from the female and then let it seed up. that way you get to have female mother plants and you end up with a bucket load of seeds

 

PS: just for future reference feminized seeds mightn't be the best choice in the future. compared to using a normal male and female for breeding, dodgy things are done like stressing a plant out to force male flowers out which then seed up a cutting of the same strain in a different room. technically seeds made using that method and alot of others are feminized, but from where im standing they are too risky to use. for all you know you could end up getting all male or hermie plants by accident and at the very least you can be assured of getting great hermie genes passed along due to the breeding process. I dont recommend them at all and suggest that if getting only female plants is of the upmost importance to you that you do the smart thing by starting with a proven female and then cloning the hell out of it

[JointsNRoaches]

Im so confused mate! Im really new to growing and all of that just went right over my head.

[Innocent criminal]

grow em all out, clone the fems, let the parents got to seed, then you have clones, and more seeds than you could poke a stick at.

[brick]

Im so confused mate! Im really new to growing and all of that just went right over my head.

 

 

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[hydroheven]

in order to change the sex of the plant you can either stress it out beyond belief which in most cases will just give you a hermie plant anyway or you can use chemicals which will alter the dna of the seeds before they are sprouted or will give heaps of the female chemicals to try and force them to put out female flowers...personally i believe any of those options is not only a waste of time and money, its cant be any good for the plants or you either

 

if you want to make the most out of the strains you have purchased than there is 2 ways to go about it.

1) grow out all the seeds, take cuttings of only the females and after harvest you keep only the best female of each strain

2) you use a male from each strain to make F2 generation seeds. that just means SC x SC or SS x SS

 

if you take cuttings from the best plants you can then keep them as mother plants. from there its just a matter of keeping the plant in vege and you'll be able to take as many cuttings from it as you want. 1 plant can literally turn into thousands, its just a matter of time, patience and a tiny bit of practice that even a total newb can pretty much master the first time around

 

if you decide to make an F2 generation of seeds you could pull 5000-10000 seeds from each female plant. personally i think making seeds is a great idea because it allows you to share them with friends and family both in australia an overseas...it can also preserve the genetics for a good 5 years or more if stored correctly which can negate the need for mother plants and the equipment to keep them alive.

 

there is a third option...grow out all the seeds, pick the best male and female from each strain, take cuttings from the female and then let it seed up. that way you get to have female mother plants and you end up with a bucket load of seeds

 

PS: just for future reference feminized seeds mightn't be the best choice in the future. compared to using a normal male and female for breeding, dodgy things are done like stressing a plant out to force male flowers out which then seed up a cutting of the same strain in a different room. technically seeds made using that method and alot of others are feminized, but from where im standing they are too risky to use. for all you know you could end up getting all male or hermie plants by accident and at the very least you can be assured of getting great hermie genes passed along due to the breeding process. I dont recommend them at all and suggest that if getting only female plants is of the upmost importance to you that you do the smart thing by starting with a proven female and then cloning the hell out of it

 

 

 

 

 

so F1 in pot is ok to breed from ?

i only ask because with most crops, corn , wheat, ect ect , F1 means that you cant use the seeds from it to reproduce becuse thay are not viable or dont run true , is it differnt for F1 dope seeds ?

[WantDaChronic]

an F1 generation when referring to cannabis anyway just means a hybrid of any 2 strains.

F2 means seeds were made from the F1 parents

F3 is when a grower keeps a mother plant from the original F1 generation and then backcrosses a male from the F2 generation to it. it can be done the other way around, but its easier keeping females alive.

F4, F5, etc all mean the same as F3, its just you use the latest generation of seeds to find a male to cross back to the original F1 mother plant.

 

there is however another view to it which is a continuation of F2 seeds in my opinion. basically you just let a male seed up a female every generation and each generation gets a higher number. personally i believe this method is good for keeping the genetics varied a little, but the first way of breeding i mentioned will yield virtually genetically identical plants after only the 5th generation of seeds which is how proper strains get created in my opinion anyway. my reasoning behind that is if you make seeds which grow plants that are 95% or more the same you can be sure of getting a uniform crop in potency, size, smell, taste, etc. unfortunately though alot of breeding is done by crossing F1s together because they grow faster, yield more, etc. due to hybrid vigor. this means instead of getting say northern lights x skunk which would normally be a fairly stable hybrid, you end up with 2 strains crossed to another 2 strains and the end result from that is a mixed basket of genetics that shows it off before long seeds like that can be really hit and miss due to the wild genetic differences between individuals from the same family, but thats not to say you wont find a special plant in the mix...cannabis just throws a few plants in there like that to mess with out heads so we continue breeding it

[Innocent criminal]

Ok then, so if one of my celtic berry crowns dropped five seeds, and all plants in the room were female, they should be fem seeds?? not sure if they are cbxcb or cbxww orcbxskunk#1

[Closet Grower]

Ok then, so if one of my celtic berry crowns dropped five seeds, and all plants in the room were female, they should be fem seeds?? not sure if they are cbxcb or cbxww orcbxskunk#1

If

all plants in the room were female

there would be NO seeds

[Innocent criminal]

haha smarty you know what I mean, seeds had to have come from hermi plant, so.....?

 

THC