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*p.s you cant legalise it due to UN Narcotic laws.. it falls into the fact and greater container catogary of 'drugz' u no non-presecription, tablet etc etc.. so you gotta get it De-Criminalized so they dont fill the jails up with 'criminals' and 'law breakers' make it a fine matter.. kinda like jay walking.. i rekon like a dog with no leash maxium is public disturbance.. and if your tree causes too much ruckes they can cull it if they find it.. like a stray dog running around. You go against the Catogary which also contains synthetic substances like herion and cocaine.. kinda lessor of two evils.. Still if you get it decriminalised..
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Contrary to popular belief the UN drug laws do NOT prohibit the use of Cannibis for medicine. in fact the preamble to the Single Treaty on Narcotics states

 

PREAMBLE

The Parties,

Concerned with the health and welfare of mankind,

Recognizing that the medical use of narcotic drugs continues to be indispensable for the relief of

pain and suffering and that adequate provision must (emphasis added) be made to ensure the availability of narcotic drugs

for such purposes,

[End Quote]

 

 

The Australian Government and in fact most governments around the world have completely failed to meet this obligation under the treaty thereby rendering the treaty null and void.

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Heh, I love PeaceGrow's idea!

 

I'm not very versed in weed legalese but does anyone know what the main prevention to it getting decriminalised is? My stoner house mate had a smoke in the city in an alley and as he was walking out he was approached by 2 plain clothed police officers. They asked him to empty his pockets and when they were sure he didn't have any they asked him nicely to just keep the smoking at home. It seemed to me like that was kind of bordering on decriminilisation behaviour but from some of the other posts I'm getting the impress that some of you have experienced less than civil attitudes from the coppers?

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Heh, I love PeaceGrow's idea!

 

I'm not very versed in weed legalese but does anyone know what the main prevention to it getting decriminalised is? My stoner house mate had a smoke in the city in an alley and as he was walking out he was approached by 2 plain clothed police officers. They asked him to empty his pockets and when they were sure he didn't have any they asked him nicely to just keep the smoking at home. It seemed to me like that was kind of bordering on decriminilisation behaviour but from some of the other posts I'm getting the impress that some of you have experienced less than civil attitudes from the coppers?

 

Yeah, I've been busted a few times from the jacks when I was a kid. They just tip your mix down the gutter and tell you if your gonna smoke do it at home.

 

The problem comes when you get 8 of them bursting in to your house at 7 in the morning, one of the male coppers trying to bust in to the bathroom after you've all ready explained that your girlfriends in there having a shower. All because your trying to grow a few outdoor plants and not have to buy weed off speed head fuck wits who constantly sell you shit, that’s my main concern anyway!

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same

my first encounter was in the early 70ts

i was sweet 17

and at the stock exchange in brisbane

a big group of we snuck in and pellted red vegi die and tomarto sauce in paper bombs all over the boards

my plackard read

the blood from the vietnam war is on the hands of the money merchants

they totally freeked out and dragged me by my dreads down 12 flights of stairs

i woke up in hospitable and suffered 20 weekends in jail

we were smart arse hippys and they were the ignorant pigs

it got heaps worse before it started to ease up

lots a changes since then

now

we have cammeras and web camms every where to keep the bastards honest

scientific and anadotical everdence to support we truths,

we are right

they are wrong

essentially both sides know this

these days

it is not hard to talk the cops into quiting the force

and getting a real job to really protect the planet and its people from real criminals

they know the differance

when they find out that they are actually working for the bigest crimmials of all time

well

thats why no cops are stationed at nimbin for more than 3 mts

they have to consantly keep changing them

:wub:

try and get em to talk on canmmera it is a ton a fun

btw

as soon as you do capture some crucial frames

mek we know it

the world should know

share it

put it on utube

and email it or snail mail a copy to the hemp embassy

we are documenting it all

now hear diss babylon

pay day will come

dat day you will get what comming to you

justice must pentrate

 

forward cannabis

heal de people

heal da land

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Contrary to popular belief the UN drug laws do NOT prohibit the use of Cannibis for medicine. in fact the preamble to the Single Treaty on Narcotics states

 

PREAMBLE

The Parties,

Concerned with the health and welfare of mankind,

Recognizing that the medical use of narcotic drugs continues to be indispensable for the relief of

pain and suffering and that adequate provision must (emphasis added) be made to ensure the availability of narcotic drugs

for such purposes,

 

The Australian Government and in fact most governments around the world have completely failed to meet this obligation under the treaty thereby rendering the treaty null and void. [End quote]

 

 

Hi Lightning - I am new to the site and hope you don't mind my input here.

 

It's not the Convention which is invalid. The Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs was ratified by the Commonwealth of Australia and adopted in Schedule 1 to the Narcotic Drugs Act 1967 (Cth). It is law in Australia. The Single Convention does not specifically prohibit the medical use of cannabis and as outlined above the Convention provides that provision must be made for the relief of pain and suffering - medical use.

 

If parts or sections of state drug laws are used in a manner that is inconsistent with the intention of the Convention or the Narcotic Drugs Act then those sections are invalid and should be struck down in cases where the person can show that the use is for medical purposes. See section 109 of the Australian Constitution.

 

State health laws have made provisions for dronabinol (THC). See for example section 77 Health (Drugs and Poisons) Regulation 1996 (QLD).

 

Dronabinol is a semi-synthetic THC pill and does not have the other cannabinoids. It is marketed under trade name Marinol and needs to be imported from overseas through the Therapeutic Goods Admistration's Special Access Scheme (SAS).

 

The TGA list dronabinol as a chemical substance whereas Marijuana/cannabis is listed as a herb. As a health consumer I would argue for a locally grown natural herb over a chemical substance any day.

 

A good report - Marinol vs Natural Cannabis.

 

http://norml.org/index.cfm/www.walthamtheb...m?Group_ID=6635

 

Health departments have put in provisions to support the pharmaceutical companies with a chemical susbtance THC - section 33 of the Health regulations provides an appeal process so I am thinking about appealing if I don't get approval to use natural cannabis.

 

I think legislation is out there it just needs to be challenged.

 

Anyway that's my take on it for now - still more research to do. :wub:

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welcome grace

good to have you on board

 

The TGA list dronabinol as a chemical substance whereas Marijuana/cannabis is listed as a herb. As a health consumer I would argue for a locally grown natural herb over a chemical substance any day.

 

seen

right on

i use herbs instead

i think we should relentlessly attack this insane law for every posible aspect

the right to selfmedicate should be restored to it rightfull place

it is actually cheeper for everyone conscerned

and far more empowering to grow and process your own medicine

obviously a lot of corruptition is entwined

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hi grace, yes you are right the treaty is law in oz and state law does contradict it. in fact state law also contradicts the oz constitution and the un charter and human rights accords and I do intend to expose the contradictions later this year, will post the updates to my arguments shortly if i can get the time to finish it

 

 

welcome to the sight , c u on the threads :wub: lol

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