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Hi everyone,
trying to get rid of scarid fly, fly spray works fine for the ones
flying in the room, but I need to get to the undeveloped ones in my root
zone as this is third crop that has them.
Hydroshop gave me Scarid 10 which is a Group 3 Insecticide
it has 10g/L Deltamethrin.
The hydro guy is not good with advice etc, I only go there when I
am desperate, so I don't trust his advice that it can be added to the tank
unless someone else can back it up.
Does anyone know if it is ok to add to tank and at what rate per litre?
The directions on the bottle are all for spraying, not adding to the tank.
Thanks
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Heya aussie , mate i dunno this stuff you speak of but on a google search " scarid 10 " i see 2 listed hydro shops reccomend it only be sprayed on the surface of the medium that the plants are growing in and to avoid it coming into contact with plant ? :wave:

if you do try on the the root zone it is prolly worth doing only one plant by hand with a watering can .. just to see what reaction you get before mixing it in for the whole lot :thumbdown:

either way let us know how you get on
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and try to block the entry point where these little f*%#kers get in the room
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there is a fungi that attacks the larvi
i canna recall the name
if you do a search for --> Bio logical pest controle
there is a lot of companies that sell and surpport this practice

the best methord for pest control is the bio dynamic way
strictly organic
tried and proven
never fails

collect at least 20 scarid fly and larvi
mash dem into a past
add to 100ml room temp water
put the lid on shake it up
leve it stand over night at room temp
nex day strain
spray at 100 pt water to 1 pt scarid fly solution
too easy eh
warning
never spray under hot lights
never
ok

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Excellent radic i use the same method for an over abundance of slaters, only way to go.
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there is a fungi that attacks the larvi
i canna recall the name
if you do a search for --> Bio logical pest controle
there is a lot of companies that sell and surpport this practice

the best methord for pest control is the bio dynamic way
strictly organic
tried and proven
never fails

collect at least 20 scarid fly and larvi
mash dem into a past
add to 100ml room temp water
put the lid on shake it up
leve it stand over night at room temp
nex day strain
spray at 100 pt water to 1 pt scarid fly solution
too easy eh
warning
never spray under hot lights
never
ok

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That's funny as all hell B) putting their heads on a stick to scare the others off won't work.
Sciarid fly aren't attracted to anything on the plant
They can detect decomposing organic matter, which they love to lay their eggs in, because in that decomposing organic matter is all the food their babies(fungus gnats) need to kick off a healthy life cycle.
3 times in a row? your either using coco or reusing old grow medium or have damaged the roots and attracted them, they love rotting roots, more specifically the Pythium and a couple of other fungal spores that come in with that.
The only way to beat these things is with a pesticide drench once they are in your pots.
One other success I have found is to take clones and clean out the entire grow room and throw all medium in the bin.
Using coco long term indoors is bound to attract these.
Beneficial bacteria are available(Nu-Life) but these aim at knocking out the fungal food source BEFORE these things can establish.
Once again, drenching with a pesticide BEFORE the plants are planted is another way to keep em at bay.
Google sciarid fly, Pythium and beneficial bacteria and see how you go.
Personally I'd chop them and chuck everything depending on how far into the grow you are, probably hash the plants
Good luck
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hehehehhe
love ya work bufo
no flys on u ...
im much the same
kill the fuckers,and kill em good
asking em to leave hasnt proven any fruits for me...hehehe]
i have had em 1 time
i applied a product from xtreme,called SCARID FLY DRENCH
contains950g/l emulsifiable botanical oil & 800g/l diazinon

i used it for 1 day,the scaris fly/fungus gnats where goneske
at rate of 2ml per 10 ltr
and itrs recomonded not to use within 14 days of harvests
i recon this shit will work better than heads on sticks...hahahahha
all the best
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oh
well
when you put the mashed insect past into room temp water for 12hrs or so
what happens is bacteria start to breakdown the mash and build up in numbers rappidly
so when you spray dat pon the insects is starts to eat dem alive
they get away as fast as dey can
this is extreemly infectious for insects
it works
and dey wont come back
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yea im familiar with this method though i understood that one really was better making the mash out of sick insects and mashing them up to spray but no doubt Radic is onto something here and this may also be worth a try IMO

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Yeah it's an old organic farming trick...but how do you know which bugs are sick?
I have used the method but wasn't impressed with the results. Seems to work better on some than others.

When a plant as valuable as these are in danger, I use the most effective thing I can.
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if you overstand the the princibals
it is fool proof

you need to catch at least 20 scarid adult flys
they do not have to be sick
any adult scarids will do
seen
what you must do is incubate all the little nasties that are spercific to break down and attack the scarids health
seen

now you must do it all at grow room temp
that is crucial

cause you want it to work and build up a healthy population of nasties at grow room temp
in ya grow room
seen
it onlt takes bout 10 to 12 hrs of incubation at grow room temp to achieve dis
ok
these are realy only starter nasties
that kick start the increase in population
but that is exactly what we want
if we spray this solution round effected areas of the grow room now
that that will kickstart an increase in all the nasties to attack scarids
when you do it right
it works everytime
fe real
lets face it
you are going to smoke this herb
chemicals sux
do not use any chemicals in the grow room that are not recomened for veges
eg recomended for ornamentals
cheme kills
seen
kills
dead
please tell ya shop keeper u want it for your Vege garden

dat is crucial

yo pam
i totaly agree
herb is invaluable
you wanna grow the best????
dont you???????
well
forget chemicals
Organic Rulez
seen
it is not that hard to get a handle on
it is cheeper and safer than chemicals
besides its is the petro chemical mother earth rappers you are giving ya hard earnd $$$$$ to
who loby to keep cannabis increase laws
boycote Chemicals pon princibals alone
i man canna support dat

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