All Seeds Are Female

[Tom]

But you're the expert. (apparently)

I have never yet claimed to be an expert, just a seat of the pants grower and the quoted part of your reply could easily be taken as an insult, is there any reason for that?

 

If this is true how is it that a plant can go from producing female flowers to producing male ones?

Hermaphrodites can be produced in two main ways, 1; it could be from seeds with a large percentage of hermie in their genetics or 2; by forcing the survival process of a female plant to kick in and trigger its inbuilt ability to produce male flowers.

 

There is a fair bit of information on hermaphrodites available here and on the net if you want a more detailed description of how they are produced and used to create predominantly female seeds, I try to keep my explanations as close as possible to plain English.

 

[WantDaChronic]

Anyone ever seen a plant go from male to female?

 

Why not ya reckon??

 

peace

c

one of the first outdoor plants i grew was a duck's offspring (ducksfoot x blueberry) and it was a male. i was going to rip it until i decided on harvesting the main cola for a bit of smoko and then the rest of the plant went female i think it was just the plant going severly hermie, but i pulled all the male flowers off the plant and didnt end up getting a single seed

 

that plant was a one off though, i have seen a 100+ hermies in my time and over 90% of them were females that put out a male flowers, atleast 5% were plants with equal amounts of male and female flowers and the rest were males that put out a few female flowers

[Chato]

went female wdc? you mean it produced buds?

 

i would really like to hear and esp see some evidence of males "turning" female or as SS reminded me at least turnin hermaphrodite in the reverse way as it's highly unlikely imho. we've all prolly seen plants turn hermi or maybe were hermi from the beginning but as far as i know i aint seen one suddenly become a bitch or produce buds....

 

peace

c

[MongyMan]

George Cervantes has said in a high times column.. that temperatures can determine either more males or more females... again i cant see how... although.. he is the "guru"

I've always found that seed (bred from a true genetic male and a true genetic female) planted when the ground is still cold (ie. late winter) grows 2/3 male on average and seed planted later once the soil is warm (ie. summer) grow 2/3 female on average. I don't think this has anything to do with a seed changing sex though, rather that cooler temps suit males better so more male seedlings survive and warmer temps suit female plants giving more female survivers. When you molly coddle seedlings and get 100% survival there is an average of 50/50% from seeds bred from a true genetic male and a true genetic female.

 

I personally think its wrong.. and your mate has just got a good batch of seed... it goes against 100 years of research.. which tells us the seed... will be male, female or hermie from the time of pollination... and has nothing to do with how you germinate them...

I agree SS.

[WantDaChronic]

i posted a thread up here in 2003 with some pics, but the pics are no longer in the post, sorry chato

[nakkas]

if this was the case... and im am not going to say yes or no.. just yet.. but... if this was the case then every time you do a seeding and have all the seedlings in the same area.. ie indoors under the same light in the same wardrobe.. then, going by this theory.. all seeds will be male or female... but this just isnt the case.. as i always seem to get a mixture of males, females and hermies...

 

 

thats logical

[MongyMan]

If this is true how is it that a plant can go from producing female flowers to producing male ones? It seems obvious to me that any seed is capable of being either. I've seen this numerous times as I'm sure many others here have as well.

 

I think that two different things are being confused here, first is the genetic makeup of the seed (male, female or hermi) and second is the ability that cannabis has to self pollenate itself, especially under stressfull conditions. A true genetic hermi seed has genes that alow it to grow true male and true female flowers on the one plant. A true genetic female seed will only grow female flowers (of which there are 2 kinds) and a true male seed will only grow plants with male flowers (which there are also 2 kinds of) The confusion arises when the term hermi or sex reversed is used to describe a true genetic male or female plant that has grown either both forms of male or both forms of female flowers on the one plant. A true genetic female can't grow male flowers. She can however grow bannana flowers that produce pollen. (this is what most people refer to as hermi, it isn't, it is self pollinated) These are still female flowers, not male, all the pollen is female and all seeds that result from pollination to a true female will be female seeds, the plant hasn't turned hermi. It is rarer for a true male to grow both forms of flower but it does happen. A male plant that has grown flowers that may look female, has not grown genetic female flowers, they are still male flowers in their genes.

 

The fact that my buddy has seeded over 50 plants and every one of them was female leads me to believe he's on to something. His 'research' is experience.

No disrespect meant, it's good to see people with new ideas, but 50 plants isnt many to base the theory on and having a bit of experience myself I think he just has female seeds.

 

Peace MongyMan

[MongyMan]

went female wdc? you mean it produced buds?

 

i would really like to hear and esp see some evidence of males "turning" female or as SS reminded me at least turnin hermaphrodite in the reverse way as it's highly unlikely imho. we've all prolly seen plants turn hermi or maybe were hermi from the beginning but as far as i know i aint seen one suddenly become a bitch or produce buds....

 

peace

c

 

They don't grow buds as such but they do grow flowers that look female. They are still stringy and stretched like male flower stalks but instead of male balls there are what look like female flowers. It is alot more common for females to self pollinate but males can do it too.

 

Peace MongyMan

[Pam]

Ok, I knew I had this info somewhere and I've found it! I cut the article out but didn't keep the page for the source it's either from High Times or CC...

 

here go:

 

Female plants are more prevalent when:

 

The seed bed is rich in nitrogen.

The temperature is low.

The humidity is high.

The root zone moisture is high.

The light spectrum is more blue than red.

the seedlings recieve 14 hours of light.

the seedlings suffer NO stress.

 

All this is done in the first two weeks of the seedlings life. And I haven't had a male since....so... I guess this technique encourages the plant hormones that determine females (auxins) perhaps it's just luck.

But I know it wasn't fem seed.

Edited July 22, 2007 by Granny