winter strains in the bush

[bush buggered]

hey guys. been thinking of doing a serious winter grow in the oz bush [coastal]. never tried it proply in winter. just played. anyone know strains that would chunk up in the cold weather. don't get much winter rain here either. i will be able to put them above the frost line, which will help. i have never managed to get buds to fatten up very well in winter. someone suggested that i find a strain from the cold shitty parts of northern europe or canada. sounds logical to me. any help on this would be gold...thanx....B.B.....

[Frazz]

BB dont know of any mate ... but i reckon your best bet is to travel to a region by the name of Farah-Helmund in Afghanistan , which is not run by the Taliban, rather it is populated by very friendly Hazara peoples who are farmers and every year take thier goats and sheep up the mountain slopes to feed in the rich grazing grasses, watered by the melting snow .. it is along this 'snowline' which seperates the mountains from the plains is where good cold-tolerant cannabis grows wild ...

 

I realise its a bit of a journey, but these are the lengths we must go to obtain the finest strains ...

stuff the seedbanks they dont know if they are are Arthur , Martha, or the cunt coming after ...

 

[jimbojones5678]

Now that would be real determination.

 

Jimbo

[Stoney]

hey there BB get something that has a rudielis back ground as this comes from russia and would easily put up with the cold

 

not sure how they smoke up like i know LR has rudy background and aint heard nothing good about it yet

 

and just a question how ya gonna get around the light issue wont they just go straight into flower or are you trying to start extra early and get some massive tree's

 

cheerz :Dj:

[bush buggered]

mmmmmm. afghanistan ya say frazz. i'll go if someone lends me the cash for a ticket. oh yeah, and a flak jacket. i was thinkin of growin in winter despite the obvious hassles, to dig up a bit of money after my summer crop went missin. i was gunna multiple plant my growbags with about 5 plants per bag. they usually get to about i metre around here in winter. just needed a bit of info about strains that grow in a short photoperiod and a bit cold. thats why i thought about the far northern hemisphere. thanx stoney...

cheers...B.B.........

[RobbieGanjaSeed]

Mate, I'm no breder, but breeders I've spoken with tell me the strains you are thinking of are as already mentioned ; rudelaris (sorry about the lousy spellig), as in, Not Cannabis Indica, nor cannabis Sativa, but Cannabis Rudellarus.

 

I'm under the impression it flowers auotmatically, due to the land of the midnight sun cuasing the strain to develop a way to seek reproduction of seeds (heads)other than waiting for 12 hour nights.

 

I gtaher it has the potency of hemp, but has been used to cross polinate strains, so to utilse the auto-flowering aspect, allowing a person to do a full sed/plant/veg and flower duirng winter months based not only photo-periods, but rather simply on time spoent from plant to flower being pre0determined in the seed genetics.

 

I assume you know all that, sorry.

Things have changed since I was talking about these strains with those that know far more than I, but they (at that time) left me withthe oppinion the strains so made were not good smoke, and often had serious hermie problems to boot). I can't express enough, I don't know these things myself, it's just what I learned from people that I do however trust as knwledgeable. They breed plants for a living, well used to.

 

They could be wrong,nad a lot can chnage in a few years but ey.

 

What I wanted to suggest was something I did for years, and never had any problem of buds fattening up during winter. but it would depend on two things mainly. One is being able to plant in full sun, and the other having either easy realtively safe acess to the grow spot and home without interuption, or a lot of guts. Well, not a "lot" of guts", just "enough" will do.

 

I'm sue you're aware of this method too, but just to be sure you haven't overlooked it.

 

Make a set of fluoro lights ups. I liked to use 4 x 4 foot long tubes. Screwed them to a board, with drop down sides at 45 degree anles or there-abouts, with one side on hinges for easy access to the plants.

without going right into it, the season being winter, the more head spots the clone has the better , so long as the pkant has food enough to support those bud sites right?

I find clones raised under fluoros this way have internodes that can't bemeausred. As many as ten branches in a couple inches, withno gap betwen each set of leaves. That's whY i reckon use fluoros for this job.

On the other hand, one main cola might fatten up better than many branches if light is a problem, as in where you have to place the clones for their heading period.

 

Take cuttigns and fill the area I mentioned with as many clones as you like. 4 x 4 foot fluoros, tubes set so the bases are a couple inches apart will give you enough roon to grow about a dozen or more clones to ten inches, with all their side branches etc..

 

This is where the courage part enters, or easy access to your spot. I lived on a remote farm, and didnt have to leave the property, so it was easy for me.

 

Take ya clones, put them in 5 gal pots of great compost, and set in full sun. Pots are best becuas the winter sun keeps moving every month or so, and to take full advantage of "full sun", yet have them against a tree line for camoflague and so forth, means you might have to move them, just a few metres from time to time to keep them in the full direct light. Aminly speaking, cops aren't out looking for crops in mid winter though anyway, so maybe camoflague wont worry you. But there's nowhere left I know of, where the air isn't filled with some clown flyinghis plane somehwere, and alot of these clowns will likely be as good as a cop if they see what is obviously a crop anyway.

but if you live remote even a littel bit, place them around the house, in the veggie garden, in rows on a hilltop, and passive pilots passing bye will nly think it's farmer joe trying to get a head start of some mango seedlings in pots, early preparation for ean early spring plant. Sometimes (and it is only sometimes) the best place to hide a thing is in plane sight somoen said a while back, and it has some truth to it.

 

You might have a spot that you can just leave them in one spot.

the bloke who now lives in the house I did this from, uses the chicken coupe I made. Saves them from possums, is next to a hose outlet and is in full direct sun all day, the chicken wire difuses any arial observation.

 

Anyway, these plants tended (I forget the strain) to get about 4 feettall, and I can't recall the weights, but were no slouches. They weighed in fine, nice fat heads, no probs. Maybe cutting side branches off will help the buds get even fatter if you do in fact have problems of any sort.

 

Why you need "guts", is you can set these clones out now, and they'll go straight into flower. Get another set of clones going, and set them out as soon as they reach ten inches or so etc.. You can keep doin ghtis, planning for th last clones to finish unbelievably in oct/nov. If hey're flowering solid at the end of the season, they will finish heading for a while before thy start to "run" into regrowth.

 

If you are lookign for a good well cleared, frost free spot , sometimes the top of roadside "cuttings" can be good. So long as no plans for council exist to do anything there, or telstra are going to dig up their cables along that road side there.

but the heat of the road through the day rdiates up and keeps the cutting tops warm, free of frost, and the tops of the cuttings normallyhave tres cleared away for safety sake, so no trees fallon passing cars. Added to all this, apart from how you approach the spot (if you have to use a car or can approach it from inland), you can be ontop there with masive plants, even watchthe cops drive by down below, and they don't have the right angle to see plants up top.

 

 

 

But if they are young, say just flowered for a few weeks by the end of 12 hour nights, they'll not finish heading of course in oct/no. They have to be kinda wellon their way by the time 12//12 photos change..

 

Anyuways, just a thought.

good luck whatever way you go. if you go to afgahistan, can I grab a lift?

 

A bloke I knew from these board who lives in Holland went for a drive to afghanistan (before the current war made it's beggining). he showed me some photos that were really impressive. He had some relative living there. Nice old run down houses. (I like living like that), substanence living, vegie garden with loads of nice plants in head.... A pic of his uncle's home (or whoever he was, grandad or someone), revealed house dotted onthehillside with indicas about chest high dotting all over the place in oups between a half dozen and a hundred or so. No great effort made on them, just like some corn, or tomaotoes. Not even as much afort withthem as we would tomatos etc...

 

Looked like a cool place to live (at that time least ways).

 

chers

rob

 

Sorry if I just "taught" you things you'd known for years. With a name like you have, I imagine you already knew all I just said. If so, sorry, i didn't mean to treat you like you aren't clued up.

 

cheers

[Frazz]

Good points made there Robbie .. none moreso than light intensity and photoperiod, as for strain well whats the good of that Ruddialas, (never said i could spell) if the smoke is no good ? ..

i reckon afghan or skunk would be as good as any ...

its hard BB cause you are asking the plant to put up with completely opposite seasons..

but ,if anyone could do, im sure its you mate, best o luck

 

[bush buggered]

thanx guys for replies. yr right rob, i am pretty well clued in. but any help i get off here is taken on board and appreciated. cos i certainly don't know it all. as nobody on here does. i have gained a lot of valuable knowledge since i been on this site, presumably from predominately young blokes. whoever said you can't teach an old dog new tricks is full of shit...

i know how to grow in winter, i was just curious if anyone had achieved good results in winter and what strain would chunk up. going crazy with cuttings sounds like the go rob and i think yr right frazzle, skunk or something like it, would prolly be a good choice.........cheers .....B.B....

[RobbieGanjaSeed]

Yeah sorry. Last thing Imean to do is to tell someone all about how to tie their shoe-laces. but at the same time, you think people are familiar with something jus tbecause you yourself are, and they need to be told from scratch.

 

Never tought you needed such detail, but thought it might be worth writing up anyway, incase soimeone has a read that hasn't done such a thing before, and thinks it might be fun or something.

 

There has been attempts to make strains you asked about, but like Isiad, I havent been in this scene for years, and haven't got a clue what came of it all. I'd keep looking for sure. Npthing to loose ey.

 

cheers mate

rob