Ice addicts causing havoc in hospital

[Jess Stone]

Thanks for going over that stuff again Wildflower, communitarianism fuck me its even hard to spell so maybe for starters an attempt to rename it in the media to an easier to spell name that accurately reflects the philosophy, I don't know ,what about COMMUNISM ,its easier to spell and its what it really is!

This stuff has been going on here in Oz for a long time,I hate to say it but there is a sort of influential group who fight against this and other stuff but there not that big here ,though they are a lot bigger in the USA ,but my take on them is that they are not getting the entire picture either ,the Citizens Electoral Council the Oz offshoot of Lyndon Larouche: EIR now don't out of hand dismiss Larouche he is off mark in many ways eg the drug war but their research is amazing ,I have been reading one of there articles about the facist/nazi origins of the Australian Liberal Party,the Old and New Guards treason in the 20's and 30's this is what the Sydney Harbour Bridge opening usurper De Groote's agenda was about ,facist Old Guard ideology, can't let those "commie" Labor Party guys get the glory for this piece of nation building and Lang was an archtypical old school laborite(aaaare, the good old real Labor) and they rightwingers despised him so they snatched his glory away . Larouche really hates Hegelian Philosophy and the current Neo-Con(job)s in power in the USA subscribe to Straussian philosophy who inturn got his ideas from Hegel. Check out this HUGE pdf (be warned its really HUGE)of a book Larouche helped research and finance though he is not one of the authors DOPE INC ,its the best I can find of it ,it may have been updated since its original publication and includes stuff on Bush41's HEROIN DEALING and CLINTONS COCAINE DEALINGS though I don't think its in the book link I provided (its a huge book and I haven't read the whole lot yet so I am guessing whether it does or doesn't)as this is a scan of the original.If Larouche could be turned on cannabis I could support a lot of there philosophy(I think,maybe,sort of, mumble )

I bookmarked the Anti Communitarian League,seems interesting

Edited April 2, 2007 by Jess Stone

[wildflower]

Interesting Jess Stone, we all seem to be coming to the same conclusion!

(im not alone thank god! )

 

i have a bit of personal experience with *community groups* and i guess with robbies insight its pretty much the same formula across the board.

And you are correct it is exactly Hegelian logic that justifys what they do (the history of hegelian logic is somewhat interesting to). Or maybe it just falls into this logic because they are fucked up individuals

 

Whats even more scary is these people involved in these *groups* end up with all the government funds at the end of the day. Then what do they do with it? well..they use the funds to further campaign the justification of their existence. Charity groups spend 9-5 5 days a week brainstorming media ideas, advertising and mail outs etc (yes ive seen these group every day with MASSIVE amounts of mailouts!!). Whats even more disgraceful how they influence and lobby at a political level. Because thats where they know they yield the most POWER. For even less effort they can influence public perception of a problem in order to gain public support.

Even better, provide a government candidate! Now thats power

Very little of it if any ends up anywhere associated with their title or mission statement.

They just dont give a fuck about you and your problems

Why they have a social party/event to attend. And a swimming pool to build in their backyard ( you better believe it! )

Also if you look at some of the managers of these companies they mostly scalped from big business, marketing managers experience..big annual incomes.

Cures to disease or solutions to social problems

IS NOT WHAT THEY WANT.

They will lose their purpose their jobs and their comfy incomes.

AND THEIR POWER.

These are not very nice people, the nice people are at the low end doing the dirty work (as in robbies case)

social disorder, chaos and unrest is very profitable. And they justify it while hiding behind insane Hegelian logic, but we know and they know its just an excuse to do what they do.

 

for people unfamiliar to Hegelian logic its pretty much like this.

Generate Chaos, unrest and instability in order to IMPROVE the human race and ultimately utopia will result - others might want to elaborate.

However its flawed - e.g *the* Utopia (if it even exists..) could well have passed us a hundred years ago or more.

But because we where too busy creating Chaos and instability in order to achieve it...we didnt know when to stop..to see that we had it

This logic is an excuse though. Likely not really to be believed by those that advocate to support it (privately or publicly).

Its more likely for the populace to be utterly confused and bewildered by its logic.

YOU NEED THIS SOLUTION (provided by us) BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM (provided by us)

stay defiant!

peace

[Jess Stone]

The definition of Hegelian Philosophy,you could simplify it more than you have :

 

I have a gun , 1+1=whatever I say it is , you will believe and accept it !

Edited April 3, 2007 by Jess Stone

[highonlife]

Ice is a terrible drug that takes away your personality. But there are the lucky ones who learn through there mistakes and with support from the right friends and family ANYONE can get off it. They have to have the will and determination to do it and stay off it, makes it harder when there are people who put you down for it and use it against you emotionally.

But the epidemic is here to stay until our government really wises up and starts getting the message out there, instead of sticking there heads in the sand and hoping it will all go away. Coz it won't.