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[taipanboi]

Hey Peoples

Would just like to know whats wrong with these plants Ive looked through other posts but i cant figure out what it is

They are on per 10L:

Coco A 20ml

Coco B 20ml

Canna 25ml

Rhizo 5ml

PK 13-14 5ml

Carrier 10ml

Full Bloom Flower Enhancer 10ml

This plant look like this before going to bloom tho

Cheers for all the help

[Frazz]

Heya taipanboi mate im unsure as to your main concern .. it looks to me you have great canopy of buds up top .. and shitty undergrowth with low light an the lower leaves given up its sugars and chlorophil to make fatter buds ... . or am i missing something here ?

yea thats a few good nutes, what is the EC ?

 

[taipanboi]

Na sorry no EC meter. do you recommend gettin one? how $$ are they?

I thought it might be some disease or deficiancy that would make it all the way to the top... eventually. if not than yay

[loylty gets u nothing]

the 1st photo looks like its a bit of a def

before flowerin i like to get these issues sorted

it also could be as fraz says

but are u loosing any leafs like its droppin some?

i use the canna coco a b

but i only mix it up at half strength and me ec comes to 1.4 jump 1.6

thats with rhizo and silica majic

all the best

bill

 

imo an ec meter truncheon is a necessity to the g/r

ebay atm has some truncheons 105$ also i thgink there is a 2nd hand 1 there too

def could be slight mag or maybe phos ,potassium????

[Gazza2001au]

give them a good flush its to late to recover the dead foliage but you'll be ok with the flush after that resume with 2/3rds strength feeds i found Canna Coco the two part whole cycle to be shit got 2x5L bottles nearly full going in the bin

[WantDaChronic]

imo the nutes are too weak and your pH is more than likely a fair bit off if you are just using tap water i recommend using 40-50mL per 10L of nutrients and get yourself a liquid pH tester from a pet shop if you really want to stinge out....

 

oh and make sure to give them a really good flush with pH adjusted water with no nutrients what so ever before doing anything else to them as it will prevent alot of problems down the line for them

[thc24]

lookis like a nute problem,

 

 

i get this from time to time visually looks like under fed but in my case it was slight over feeding and not flushing enough by mid flower the coco is full of salt and run off ec was climbing too fast 6.4 EC not PH at it worst when i use to run 2.8ec.

 

 

test run off water EC if its above about 5.0 ec thats way too strong start to flush, my current grow lost a few lower leaves but not as bad as your yellowing took 3 days of flushing to get the run off back down.. Now there is another possiability thats the PK its very strong and sometimes the week after using all leaves do die off but i only got this when i used PK for too long or too strong.

 

 

 

i noticed your using full dose nute then adding more than full dose PK thats bound to casues nute lock out if carried on for too long without flushing.

 

flush till ec drops to below 3 then continue feeding with about 2.4ec total salts PK included.., drop rhizo to 2ml, zym 2.5ml and you nute ec about 2.0 topped up with PK to 2.2 to 2.4..

 

 

 

 

Gazza whats up no like no more...... dont bin the nute youll always find a use great on lawns, gardens and my cacti gerden is going off this time of the year on canna nute.

 

 

what happened and what nute are you comparing to canna coco. im getting good results with coco nute but if youve got something better do tell im looking for a good new nute to try on some sensi skunk..

 

 

EDIT ive made a mistake when reading your nute dose i thought you where dosing 40ml of a/B coco nute (full dose).. at 2ml or 1/2 dose over fert is unlikley but id still check your run off just in case.. did you have yellowing before using PK

Ive seen PK do some strange things bright yellow leaves, burnt bud leaves, all lower leaves die and drop off from going alittle hard on the PK.. recomended PK dose is 1 to 3 ml per liter so 5ml per 10liters is a safe dose= 0.5ml per litre..

 

 

Post your run off ec if you can get a reading.

Edited January 17, 2007 by thc24

[Gazza2001au]

thc, the Canna Coco nutes are horrable IMO buds were alot smaller alot lower yeild for coco from here on in i will only use Dutch Master either Hot Coco or Advance had great results with Hot Coco in veg since DM stopped making it i used the Advance for flowering really exceeded my expectations look in me sig i used the dutch master nutes on me "Coco Chronic" plants and Canna Coco on me mixed grow in the grow diary section

 

i think 22.5mls was full strength in 10L's for the Canna Coco i can bairly remember it but my PPM was around 900

Edited January 18, 2007 by Gazza2001au

[eternity]

I also reckon that the lower branches are not recieving light hence the washed out appearance .that is the reason I grow scrog HIDs have a very poor light penetration if your plants get too tall its just wasted growth.