seeding a rockjuiced plant

[WantDaChronic]

most of us have seen the effects rockjuice can have on marijuana, ie. it stops vertical growth, makes the buds fatter and heavier, loss of taste and smells, etc. but if you seeded a rockjuiced plant, do you think those same rockjuiced traits could get passed on?

 

the reason i ask is that i intend on making some NL#5 x Haze F2s, but after reading up a bit more on the strain i have found out that the haze influence on the strain is pretty damn strong so stretching can get fairly extreme when flowering to quote the big book of buds "Due to the radically sativa nature of the haze, this cross stretches alot and takes a longer flowering period than most cannabis hybrids. this stretchy quality also allows cuttings to enter flowering as soon as they are rooted. Some grower's even start seeds under a 12 hour light regime with success. This early entry into flowering allows NL#5 x Haze to finish in a simular amount of time as conventional, indica-heavy crosses that need more vegetative time."

 

im pretty sure rockjuice messes with the genes of a plant, it'd have to atleast do something along those lines to give the effects i have seen it give im just not to sure if the bad traits like losing taste and smell would get passed onto the next generation or not and other stuff like that as i know the NL#5 x Haze is gonna be a wicked smoke and wouldnt want to wreck its genetics or anything like that

 

anyways i look forward to reading the replies and hopefully i'll be able to get things sorted so i can make a bunch of F2s

[Stoney]

hey there wdc

 

i dont really know what they will do as i aint done a seed grow with RJ but i cant see how RJ would change the genetic traits of the strain you were wanting to develope but hey if ya can try a side by side and see if it does would be really interesting to see if it did as you would have a strain that wouldnt stretch much and would have fat buds so that the need for rock juice would not be needed in flower

 

could be a interesting grow mate

 

cheerz :Dj:

[WantDaChronic]

after talking with a few peeps, i dont think it would affect the next generation of seeds the way it was explained to me is that i could be put on female hormones, grow some tits, get a higher voice, etc. but it wouldnt change my dna that made sense to me, but it didnt change the fact that when i read that for the first time i had a flashback of this old show i seen about females on testosterone therapy and they were more butch than most men i have seen

 

something tells me i better lay off the herb for a bit

[Dr Rockster]

most of us have seen the effects rockjuice can have on marijuana, ie. it stops vertical growth, makes the buds fatter and heavier, loss of taste and smells, etc. but if you seeded a rockjuiced plant, do you think those same rockjuiced traits could get passed on?

 

the reason i ask is that i intend on making some NL#5 x Haze F2s, but after reading up a bit more on the strain i have found out that the haze influence on the strain is pretty damn strong so stretching can get fairly extreme when flowering to quote the big book of buds "Due to the radically sativa nature of the haze, this cross stretches alot and takes a longer flowering period than most cannabis hybrids. this stretchy quality also allows cuttings to enter flowering as soon as they are rooted. Some grower's even start seeds under a 12 hour light regime with success. This early entry into flowering allows NL#5 x Haze to finish in a simular amount of time as conventional, indica-heavy crosses that need more vegetative time."

 

im pretty sure rockjuice messes with the genes of a plant, it'd have to atleast do something along those lines to give the effects i have seen it give im just not to sure if the bad traits like losing taste and smell would get passed onto the next generation or not and other stuff like that as i know the NL#5 x Haze is gonna be a wicked smoke and wouldnt want to wreck its genetics or anything like that

 

anyways i look forward to reading the replies and hopefully i'll be able to get things sorted so i can make a bunch of F2s

 

Hey there Wantdachronic,

I wouldnt be too phased by NL#5/Haze supposed stretchabilty.Once you have well rooted clones give them maybe 5 days on a veg cycle in your flowering room and then flip them to 12/12.Like that you can do 9 to the square metre nicely and with that a gram a watt plus is par for the course.

 

The thing is with a Haze polyhybrid like that there is great variation in phenotypes which we as growers dont often actually see as we buy 10 or 15 seeds whereas you would need hundreds if not thousands of these same seeds planted to actually see the phenotypic diversity with that gene pool.

 

I mention this as you say your are gonna be self pollinaing your girls to get a subsequent f2 generation.

This will result in a far more varied expression of different phenotypes which might result in finding a keeper,a girl with the curves that you like best if ya understand me?

 

You may find a more squat compact type whilst at the same time find a sister that'll just go through the roof heightwise and obviously no good to you.The high from f2 plant to f2 plant will be hugely variable so you cant just choose a clone mother on the basis of her appearance but it will be down to testing the pot to look for positive traits and well for me at least, the high is all.Rather an oz of where I'm at than a key of very strong but maybe makes you spooky pot.

 

To give you an example of what I'm talking about I've got friends who have sorted a top top and I mean FUCKING top desireable NL#5/Haze pheno but it aint easy to work with as the stretchy types are often(but not always as you can find a short dense squat girl occasionally with the skinny bitch high characteristics but only if you grow out hundreds!)the carriers of the most desireable cannabinoid profile so they grow 24 plants to the sqm.Just one stem with minimal side branching and yes could get much greater yields from growing other pheno's but those pheno's will not carry the traits for the best high.

 

Its all a bit subjective I guess but the Pukka NL#5/Haze is one fuck of a plant!

 

Yup,a nice bag of genetics if you have the wherewithall to unravel it.

 

 

All the best with it mate.

 

Edit:Hmm,forgot to ask.What is rockjuice? Is that a plant hormone or auxin?

Edited November 15, 2006 by Dr Rockster

[WantDaChronic]

thanks for that information, i just hope i find a pheno like the one you were talking about

 

oh and rockuice is a plant grow regulator i believe, it does what i mention at the top of the first post

[Dr Rockster]

most of us have seen the effects rockjuice can have on marijuana, ie. it stops vertical growth, makes the buds fatter and heavier, loss of taste and smells, etc. but if you seeded a rockjuiced plant, do you think those same rockjuiced traits could get passed on?

 

the reason i ask is that i intend on making some NL#5 x Haze F2s, but after reading up a bit more on the strain i have found out that the haze influence on the strain is pretty damn strong so stretching can get fairly extreme when flowering to quote the big book of buds "Due to the radically sativa nature of the haze, this cross stretches alot and takes a longer flowering period than most cannabis hybrids. this stretchy quality also allows cuttings to enter flowering as soon as they are rooted. Some grower's even start seeds under a 12 hour light regime with success. This early entry into flowering allows NL#5 x Haze to finish in a simular amount of time as conventional, indica-heavy crosses that need more vegetative time."

 

im pretty sure rockjuice messes with the genes of a plant, it'd have to atleast do something along those lines to give the effects i have seen it give im just not to sure if the bad traits like losing taste and smell would get passed onto the next generation or not and other stuff like that as i know the NL#5 x Haze is gonna be a wicked smoke and wouldnt want to wreck its genetics or anything like that

 

anyways i look forward to reading the replies and hopefully i'll be able to get things sorted so i can make a bunch of F2s

 

Hey there Wantdachronic,

I'm posting in reply to my question about what is rockjuice.

 

 

So I'll run this by ya if thats ok?

 

It stops vertical growth? Thas a very sweeping statement innit?Maybe attenuates growth huh?

 

How does it do that?(he asks somewhat disingenuously)

 

But it makes the buds fatter and heavier,but what, at the expense of taste and smells? Oh really scuse me for not believing that.

 

I'm guessing it's a plant auxin?

 

 

And the bit about this stretchy quality also allows cuttings to 'enter' flowering as soon as they are rooted is either very badly worded or is just a bunch of arse that a newb could get confused over.

 

And this bit of crap:Some growers start their seeds under a 12/12 lighting regime thus facilitating this strain to finish in a similar time frame as more indica dominant strains.

 

Bollocks,total rubbish.A plant needs so much time in veg and it can only respond to a 12/12 environment when it has built up enough phytochrome(which is a photosensitive hormone) which accumulates at the growing tips or meristems of the plant.So giving a plant 12/12 throughout its early life actually delays this process as it keeps the plant immature and unable to detect changes in its environment.

 

Hey there Wantdachronic,

not trying to shoot you down as these are other peoples words you have posted here ok my man? I'm an old fart who was growing in the early seventies and i read everyfucking thing i could and so much was total BS.I mean you all have heard of jorge Cervantes?The rubbish he wrote in the seventies he must find so embarrasing now but thats not to say he is not now an 'ok' but barely ok geezer for basic advice.

Edited November 16, 2006 by Dr Rockster

[WantDaChronic]

to be honest i have no idea what rockjuice is, hell i dont even have a bottle of it laying around to write down what it says as i was given some in a DM hot coco bottle from a mate but i have see the results with my own 2 eyes and it stops plants growing vertically very well indeed. might not completely stop them, but by god it'll reduce the stretch to a bare minimum if you use it 1 week into 12/12

 

But it makes the buds fatter and heavier,but what, at the expense of taste and smells? Oh really scuse me for not believing that.

 

that has been proven to me in my own garden. dont believe the statement if you dont want to, but before getting up on your high horse and refusing to believe it, get some rockjuice and a strain with lots of flavour so you can do a side by side grow

 

And the bit about this stretchy quality also allows cuttings to 'enter' flowering as soon as they are rooted is either very badly worded or is just a bunch of arse that a newb could get confused over.

 

ever hear of a SOG method of growing?

[Luke Skywalker]

Rockjuice is pretty much paclobutrazol. It's a PGR, or plant growth regulator, and is used commercially in the grape and stone fruit industries.

 

It does stop or at the very least massively reduce vertical development during the stretch for flower, but allows the same flowering growth to occur in a shorter node distance, hence the more dense buds.

[BentBuddha]

Has any of you guys had negative or positive experiences in experimenting at what week to put the RJ in? I"m in week 4 and i have stretchy fluffy Sativas and i'm wondering if i'll do more harm than good putting it in now?

[rex]

hey fellas getting back to the question most of us have seen the effects rockjuice can have on marijuana, ie. it stops vertical growth, makes the buds fatter and heavier, loss of taste and smells, etc. but if you seeded a rockjuiced plant, do you think those same rockjuiced traits could get passed on? !!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? is this what they call an unstable hybred