Lower leaves dying fast - need urgent help!

[SukonmiSkunk]

nitrogen dificiency starts at the lower leaves.. the problem you have is not bad... the fact that the new growth looks fine tells me that theres not much else wrong with them at all... PH issues usually effects the bigger shade leaves first as these are the main feeding points for the plant... your shade leaves look fine ... a little pale.. but fine...

 

your PH is a little low.. but not so low it should bother the plant too much... I aim for about 6.3... if it goes a little higher or lower it wont matter too much... some where between 6-7 should be ok...

 

with the mites.. don just spray one and not the other... and you need to spray the undersides of the leaves... dont worry about the plant.. its healthy and wont suffer much at all... what I do is grab the base of the plant in my hand.. and working upwards, spray the bugspray into my hand .. this will get the undersides of the leaves...DROWN it... repeat 3 days later... the bug spray wont hurt the plant at all... ive used it before and it works well... also you might need spray around your grow area... also check out side.. becuase they would have to have come from somewhere and its usually out in the garden... treat that too if you can...

also you could give them a foliar feed inbetween.. I use carbonated water with a little worm liquid... this will help the plant to recover and stay healthy too...

best to get this done now..while the plant has time to recover... becuase its a different story when its flowering.. pesticides arent the go... they taste like shit..

[Lollygag]

 

Happy new year Oz Stoners, trust the livin's easy.

 

I haven't visited your neck of the intarwebs for the longest time, browsing around I see I missed some awesome graphic bud porn.

 

Thanks for all your help here guys. I overfed them Charlie Carp, about 1 & 1/2 times the recommended dose, they loved that shit, also foliared with some hydro nutes. After that they greened up a treat, yielding some sweet pleasantly befuddling buds and a few grams of mind bending iso hash. Had a hermie I think due to either light and/or heat stress, I wasn't unhappy about that, it's hermie stock but under better conditions I'm hoping they'll stay pure female, it's a smoke I really enjoyed. No idea what the strain was, but it was frosty.

 

Edited January 1, 2008 by Lollygag

[SukonmiSkunk]

looks to me like youve done really well.. some great shots too... a few seeds... but its nuthing id be too fussed about.. they look mature and very viable..

 

very well done..

[Lollygag]

Heya Sukonmi, they had a tough childhood those plants, I'm amazed they did so well.

 

I've germinated a few of their progeny to be released into the wild this time

Hopefully the nanners on the parent plants were light &/or heat stress related and won't recur with this generation. Outdoor they won't be persecuted by light in the dark cycle courtesy of a dodgy timer, and La Nina looks like she's here for summer so no heat waves on the horizon either I think. I'll check them monthly and tear out at the first sign of gender bending so that they don't pollinate anyone else's plants that may be growing in the vicinity.

 

The plant in the black pot in the first image was relocated into the bush before Xmas, the plant in the blue pot is the one being relocated in the second pic. Still got a few littlies to go out as soon as they get some reasonable lateral branching happening. They're massive feeders - I'm having trouble keeping up again - the free range plants are loaded with osmocote and blood and bone, hopefully that'll see them through till Feb when I visit.

 

Edited January 1, 2008 by Lollygag

[DrDee]

Lollygag,

I have a couple of plants right now that are looking like that from soil that's too wet.. I agree with Suko that, at first glance, it lools like N deficiency, but if the vermiculate is keeping things really wet, your roots can't get enough O2. That can look look very similar. So it's a little hard to tell. Be sure to put some perlite in the new soil when you repot and if you want to remove some of that old soil, gently submerge in neutral temp water and slowly gently let the old stuff wash away a bit. I've done it, and if you're careful, it won't shock the plant too much. I'm not saying to do that. Only YOU can tell, when you get it out of that pot, how damp things are down at the bottom. I don't use vermiculite. Usually add 15-20% perlite. I wanted to try coco as a soil additive and it didn't work too well, which is why I have over-wet soil now.

 

Luck to you...

Dee

[DrDee]

Ooops, didn't read all the posts and you had already solved the problem. Good going though.

Dee