Family First want cannabis recriminalised

[Oz]

According to John Safrans' rabbi "cannabis is fine"

[freeme]

Hi

Too all of those who would dare to think for them self.

 

religion kills

 

The family first party are very danderous people.

they are religous bigots.

 

The hidden agenda is to have our children taught in schools to be jesus freaks.

They have the desire to take away more of our freedom.

 

Educate yourself to there way so that you can war against them.

 

The facts are here

www.jesusneverexisted.com

www.evilbible.com

www.christianism.com

 

They are brain washed puppets who can not think for them self.

 

Their god is a book.

 

Confront these enemies of progress.Hit them with the truth.

jesus never existed

[Pa-uul]

Yeah these Family First guys are mean. From what I can tell most Christians do the opposite of what Christ actually taught. Christ (if, indeed he existed,) was a cool dude who was inclusive. For example Family First are against homosexuals for being as such. That’s bizarre. Christ protested the Roman ban on psychedelic substances comparing their restriction to torture, which I can understand. Psychedelics expand the consciousness and spiritual understanding. Fundamentalist Christians are part of an old order which was fabulously successful at gaining power and wealth through murder, subjugation, fear, rape and bigotry. It’s the defining character of religion and is entirely antithetical to what Jesus supposedly taught.

 

Hitler was a type of Christian and it was his basis for the treatment of the Jews. If Jesus was alive he would frickin smoke weed and detest Family First as we do.

[freeme]

Jesus was not cool.

 

This is why.

 

 

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

 

2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

 

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

 

3b) "All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16 NAB)

 

3c) "Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)

 

4) Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)

 

5) Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)

 

6) Jesus has a punishment even worse than his father concerning adultery: God said the act of adultery was punishable by death. Jesus says looking with lust is the same thing and you should gouge your eye out, better a part, than the whole. The punishment under Jesus is an eternity in Hell. (Matthew 5:27)

 

7) Peter says that all slaves should “be subject to [their] masters with all fear,” to the bad and cruel as well as the “good and gentle.” This is merely an echo of the same slavery commands in the Old Testament. 1 Peter 2:18

 

8) “Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).

 

9) “...the scripture cannot be broken.” --Jesus Christ, John 10:35

 

There are heaps of things that jesus said that are uncool.

 

Like saying we will always have the poor with us.

[naturalmystic]

Freeme , you obviously have issues with jesus wether its because of how men have portrayed themselves as christians ( meanwhile there pedophiles or war mongers )or just through words in the bible . One minute its like your insisting that he never existed and the next minute your trying to dismiss him as being uncool , by using quotes from the bible as if you dug hard finding them right ? All these quotes and issues all revolve around man in one way or another , the bibles been written by men , and those men wanted you to take it literally . I mean how do think it was written ? You sound like a mixed up , maybe at some point you commited yourself to christ or similar beliefs and then somehow you were let down by them , fuck knows but anyway , jesus was similar to other holy men http://www.cosmicharmony.com/index.htm#PageList you have to see through the hypocracies the injustices the ways of man and how they used religion and christianity , forget the book its been corrupted too . Your trying to proclaim you have an explanation to something people devote lifetimes too , your view has been tarnished through what ever means , but you have to see beyond that atleast if not to believe in christ or people like him but atleast to be aware of the ways of man the evil they do and how history and text has been corrupted , why couldnt there be a universal law of truth out there ask a shaman a witchdoctor there all binded by spirit law ,. I was brought up with christian values etc and for awhile the bible really did my head in im talking when i was like 9 -10 yr old , i searched for own truths and answers . I know you cant take the bible word for word youd end up in a nuthouse trying to abide by it all .You come to your own conclusions by doin your own soul searching , theres been alot of great holy men and women through history , you cant just right them off because you dont like something thats been written about them or because some of there followers are evil .

[freeme]

Naturalmystic

 

I have a problem as you put it with all religions because they are founded on lies and delusion.

and more importantly create division.

 

I become an exchristian because I tested the bible and god.

Fortunately I found www.jesusneverexisted.com by accident.

 

I was Christian for 17 years from 1987 to 2004.

I am now 45 years old and have spent the last 18 months testing the bible/Koran etc etc and your imaginary friend Jesus.

I have read over 5000 pages of text relating to your invented friend.God Jesus

 

You are obviously a religious a new ager into channeling and other questionable mystical events.

And more than likely a female who plays with or has played with the Tarot.Possibly being under 25.y/o

 

I also find your reply quite rude as if from someone that is ignorant to the truth.

 

What you need to do is catch up do some reading.Question a few religious views.

 

Try reading all of this www.christianism.com www.jesusneverexisted.com www.exchristians.com

I have .So if you are going to assume what I have or have not done or experienced.

At least educate yourself before you reply.

 

Can you provide unquestionable proof that Jesus existed.?????

 

Sitting on the fence does not help either its true or its not.

 

My reference to the uncool Jesus is reference to the fictional character mentioned in the bible.

The book of lies.

why did you not understand that.?????

do you agree with the killing of disobedient children .??well your Jesus did.!

 

Your reference to genesis 1:29 is a joke do some research etymology etc etc .

just like all of the religious especially the new agers you just pick and choose.from all religions

sitting on the fence denying that you are religious.Do you pray do you believe in deity if so you

are religious.Chained to a darkness.

 

As I am aware that you will not change.Do some more learning.This book www.urantia.org helped me on my religious walk.You will like it try paper 90 for a start.

 

Today's "Thought to Ponder" from The Urantia Book:

Even though you are effectively armed to meet the difficult situations of life, you can hardly expect success unless you are equipped with that wisdom of mind and charm of personality which enable you to win the hearty support and co-operation of your fellows. You cannot hope for a large measure of success in either secular or religious work unless you can learn how to persuade your fellows, to prevail with men. You simply must have tact and tolerance. [1774:1]

 

 

 

do you know what frontal lobe epilepsy is.?do you hear voices.??

[freeme]

Is this the church that the family first cult started in america

 

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

 

This is very funny but not if you believe in jesus

 

http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2005/12...of-nazareth.php

[naturalmystic]

Obviously unlike you i was right about a few things your past your present and your future and for information im not female thankyou haha( spare me the cheap shots ) , the way your splilling over with your idol rantings sends a clear message that your an antichrist , the fact that i didnt understand the uncool jesus thing is because i dont read the same crap as you do why didnt you understand that? do you automatically think people are reading what you are ?? , the way i put things across unlike yourself is that you can either belive or not its no problem , but the way your shovelling your website thats the flavour of your month and your beliefs down peoples throats maybe its yourself your trying to convince youve obviously had a lot of problems with this issue you see im not some new age jerky guru i really dont give a fuck when it comes down to it , i belive in jesus yeh but in a different way than one that says i need to go to church or i need to do fucking this or that cause im a guy who basically dosnt give a shit what you do mate ,it seems its taken you a heck of along time to come to your conclusions what were you some kinda alter boy ?? you seem like a fanatic . Fair enough you dont belive thats clear , the fact that you find me rude says alot considering , maybe just abit offended ,well what ever the case maybe everyone to there own . You see i dont go to church and if you didnt notice id pointed out my views on the whole church thing , i dont read from websites or books i just speak my mind , maybe your good at doin school projects and that sought of thing im sure youd make a handy office clerk or a public servant with your atheist views . As for my belief in christ and the connmection to cannabis thats not up for debate , im true to my belief its like a rasta thing i find god in cannabis lollol

[freeme]

As usual another empty reply No defense is the best defense.

 

Whats that dance you do the side step.

 

Did Jesus exist or do you believe in a fictional character.??

 

Do you believe all of what Jesus said or only the parts that you like.??

 

As the topic is family first a religious link in government I provided

unquestionable proof that Jesus never existed.

 

It is also interesting that the Muslim believe that Jesus existed yet never

died on the cross for the sins of mankind.Also that Jesus was not gods son but a prophet.

The Koran has a different Jesus.That also never existed.

 

Do you know anything about Family First.

 

Do you know that the church that they came from believes that you will burn in hell forever and ever.

Do you believe in talking snakes and donkeys.??

Do you believe that the sun stood still.??

 

Well Family First do.!!!!!!!!

 

Are you aware that the church that they come from supports

Binny Hinn A FAKE HEALER The Worlds worst conman.

 

Have you done any research relating to family first.??

 

Please note I do not own any of the sites that I have listed.

They are for reference only Its free information Free .

 

Can't you get on mystic

[naturalmystic]

haha bottom line it sounds like you have a big problem with this whole issue , its not a matter of wether i belive certain things in the bible or wat suits me , i look at the big picture im not bound by written words . Im not a bible basher , if i told you i also belive in buddha or other beings does that mean i have to follow there doctrine , you see its this need or infactuation with the written word particularly the bible and koran , that creates fanatics and people who twist the words for there own agendas , or find themselves prisoners in there own minds because they havnt been able to think outside that square . Religion is like an island resort with everybody looking out into a vast ocean . Im not a church goer , im not a preacher im a sinner and i like to indulge in sinful things sex drugs , rock n roll adultry is a particular favourite , when i was a wee fellow i used to go to sunday school and learnt the ten commandments , the only one i havnt broken is murder . yet here we are me a beliver and you the antichrist , funny yin yang kinda melds in a yin yang way wouldnt ya say ? yeh ima bit of everything abit of eastern phillosphy abit of jesus abit sci fi wat ever i feel like at the time , i find your whole direction fanatical yet lost in a loop of web pages and forgotten scrolls . Im not interested in quotes or passages that say things like when the twelth trumpet blows wel all rot in hell etc , i find it ridiculous that people could actually believe that tripe . Youve been a believer probably like some of those modern day christians ive seen massing in big colourbond halls whilst me and my mates are outside laughing getting stoned and enjoying life i can only feel sorry for people like that and how misguided they are , most people just want to belong or to feel secure in the process there caught up in these religous cells with beadie eyed women and men proclaiming themselves ministers to subdue there midlife crisis . That kinda sense of power gives them a eurphoric buzz and next thing everybodies walking around with a big meaningless grin as if there high on life . You know like spread the word man , next thing your going on camp having the kinkiest sex youve ever had with the ministers wife kool . Whats the human element in all of this , how much blame for words and ways of following can you attribute to mere men ??