Water Parameters

[SukonmiSkunk]

I never check PH and havent done so for almost 14 years...

when I first started I was checking ph every time the pump came on... I noticed that the ph fluxuates through out the light cycle....

as explained to me.... sounds good...

 

the ph regulates the nutrient intake, and different nutes are taken at different parts of the day, and are taken up at various ph levels, as the ph levels determines the type of nutes the plant takes....

theres a ph/nute chart somewhere on here and clearly shows the ph where every nute type is taken at....

 

in my opinion, ph checks should be done once a day, at the same time of day...... if you find then the ph is all over the place then I think a nutrient flush is order, as salt lock or build up will vary ph levels all over the place.

 

as I said, I NEVER even bother with ph readings.... the Dutch Master nutes seems to buffer it when the nutes are mixed.... try using DutchMaster Nutes......

[Mushaman]

Heya AP ... the system you're using is really fast .... but I think you'll find that the aero setup I'm running is keeping up with your explosive growth ... mind you, I dont have any fish and I do use nutes ... not that much though and if you check the end of my last GD, you'll meet the Mango Moll .. the Satti slut .. now that was some explosive growth ... she may even be up there with your output stats .. watts/grams :scratchin

 

nice info dude :thumbsup a little to complex for the ikes of me however ... I love the aero and its simplicity .. suits me down to the ground anyway, its all good!

 

n my opinion, ph checks should be done once a day, at the same time of day...... if you find then the ph is all over the place then I think a nutrient flush is order, as salt lock or build up will vary ph levels all over the place

 

SS, I totally agree, I do two checks a day usually and when Ph is all over theplace and wont settle on the meter .. it surely means time for flushing :thumbsup

 

 

 

 

[SukonmiSkunk]

heres a link to the PH/nute chart..it was posted by dysfer, thanks mate.

 

I am not sure how accurate it is , but you can see by keeping a constant ph level, is probaly not the best thing...... and can probably be put down to most deficiencies..I guess.....???????

 

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[Aquaponix]

Awesome feedback and information from you folk thank you.

 

Sukonmi that is a very interesting observation about a level pH. However a swing in pH of more than 0.5 is bad for plants (and fish).

 

This is why I like the idea of correcting dH before adjusting the pH. As the degree of hardness provides the capacity for buffering. If buffering is pH, from what I read...

 

This I hope equates to a stabler pH as nutrients (and fish food) are added or filters (plants) are subtracted. This will equate to happier plants and fish.

 

I believe I got lucky with my waters original state but in future will need to know how to help others with theirs.

 

I'm also not confident enough to change my waters chemistry yet, so shall continue to study.

 

It's like there's a big picture, some of you guys probably already got it, but I'm not seeing it, yet, just getting a feeling it's all tied to the percentages of what's in there.

 

Like bio-fields in organic soil and hydro-bio grows. This eats that making that then they eat it and produce this and the other that creates gas.... Synergy.

 

Synergy, as opposed to throwing chems in the soil to force growth, or pH up and down in the system to force the range you want.

 

Like preparing a hole for a soil grow the year before. But I'm guessing I can 'correct' water in the month I cycle the Aqua systems in.

 

Once I know what ideal starting water should look like (pH, GH, dH, KH & Salinity) it would be a lot easier to chase these parameters.

 

Then hopefully with the local water bodies report I can tailor make 'good water' recipes for folk

 

These recipes would be to pre-treat water before it goes into bio or organic hydro set-ups providing maximal stability of pH.

 

Love the journey :thumbsup

[nitram]

Aquaponix .....  Awesome feedback and information from you folk thank you.

 

Sukonmi that is a very interesting observation about a level pH. However a swing in pH of more than 0.5 is bad for plants (and fish). ...

 

Yes. it's simplified/commonly refered to in fishy circles is called "crashing your water".

 

It is the chemistry you alter in just PH adujustment then again when you add nute too. Tempreture can affect the results (outcome) too.

 

I've been on this "Chemisty journy" myself, Now I just grow. :thumbsup

 

This topic requires a chemist - any around here at OS, smokin nice PH'ed grown pot.

 

Knowledge is good, too much knowledge can kill

 

Interesating topic though !

[Aquaponix]

Well I aint a chemist but I'm smart enough to be a damn rocket scientist so wont be daunted by their big names and obscure language

 

I'm aware the water chemistry changes with additions or subtractions of anything.

 

I'm talking changing it before it is in the system and without pH salts.

 

this may take lots more study

 

or a lightbulb

 

either way, folk pre-prep soil and i'll learn to do the same for water.