"Amsterdam" medical weed

[Ferre]

I became a member there, just to get acces to their info on medical weed and stuff, and got these two emails.

 

Here's the first :

 

Thank you for sending us E-mail for more information, here is our free

 

 

Cataloque: Read it very carefully .

 

 

-=====> the Medical Cannabis Experience <====-

 

We live in Amsterdam (also known as the Netherlands), a place

that, until now, used to be most famous for its tulips, wooden shoes

, and windmills.  But Cannabis insiders know that their favorite herb

is legal in our country.

 

I am Marc, and I work together with three suppliers of Cannabis

to help the sick people worldwide who need Cannabis as a medicine.

That's why we have so many different varieties of Cannabis.

 

This is no rip-off or scam ---- it's a real clean deal, don't be afraid

 

We want to have satisfied customers (not one-time deals and a bad name).

 

Over here (Amsterdam, The Netherlands), the Cannabis is legal.

 

If you know more people who want a free Information cataloque and pricelist

forward this Email to them : marc.haarhuis@europe.com

 

To place an order information:

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Send your order, money and return address (destination address ) to our address on paper, and we will send you the Cannabis product that you have chosen in a stealthy enough packageing.  When we receive your order, we will confirm its arrival by e-mail.

 

NOTE:If you want that we use your own packageing who is stealthy enough then send it to us. We try to be flexibel for our customers.

 

* Don't use the "global priority mail" envelopes .

** Don't send your order by fedex or tnt because they don't deliver to poboxes .

 

At that time, we'll give you the shipping date Email , and we will ask you

to confirm with us when your order has arrived.

 

This is the best procedure to check if everything is okay.

We send it all over the world, and we can send it to you too .

 

IMPORTANT:

* If possible FORWARD our cataloque to people who need this product as

a medicine, and link our Website: http://come.to/softdrugs4u/

** One advice from us don't order to much at once (max 10grams)

Orders below 5 grams is safer.

Your cheapest investment 1 gram + shipping = only 15 dollar.

*** Customers in the USA or England and Sweden beware of delayed arrival or stealing mail-employies, No refund .

**** We sell from 1gram to max 10grams.

***** If you link our website http://come.to/softdrugs4u to another cannabis related website then we add 1 gram extra with your order once.

 

We have a larger selection of medical cannabis products, and the price list changes monthly.

 

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  This is the small Pricelist of:  November 2002

 

Once again:

Become a member of our e-groups, and you always have access to our full version of the catalogue .

 

Medicinal Weed Menu:

====================

 

Bio:

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Bubble Gum     $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Colombian $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

Colombian special offer $US/Euro 50.00 5/grams

Jack Herer $US/Euro 14.50 1/gram

Santa Esmeralda $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram  

Sensi Star  $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Super Skunk $US/Euro 13.50 1/gram

White Widow $US/Euro 14.50 1/gram

Thai $US/Euro 13.50 1/gram

Warlock Haze  $US/Euro 16.50 1/gram

 

Hydro:

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Ak-47 $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Jamaica $US/Euro 12.50 1/gram

K2 $US/Euro 13.50 1/gram

Kabouter $US/Euro 14.00 1/gram

Kali Mist $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Snow white $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Top 44 $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

 

Medicinal Hashish Menu:

=======================

 

Afghaan $US/Euro 12.50 1/gram

Afghaan special offer* $US/Euro 45.00 5/gram

Dutch Moonshine $US/Euro 27.50 1/gram

Maroc $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

Pollen $US/Euro 12.50 1/gram

Puntjes $US/Euro 12.50 1/gram

Super Maroc $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Skuff $US/Euro 22.00 1/gram

Temple Ball* $US/Euro 17.50 1/gram

Zero zero $US/Euro 13.50 1/gram

Zero Zero Special US$/Euro 55.00 5/grams

 

We do sell from 1 gram to a max. of 10 grams .

 

Div :

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3.0 grams Mushrooms $US/Euro 45.00 Super Quality

4.0 grams SanPedro Cactus  $US/Euro !> Ask for it <

5.0 grams Peyote Cactus $US/Euro !> Ask for it <

 

 

* all other Medicinal Cannabis products on request.(no problemo)

 

** Talk about cannabis as a medicine: medical-cannabis-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

*** If you want information about mdma,xtc send email to a good friend of us

dr. Ron Masters his E-mail adres is: ron-masters@ohdie.com

 

 

Normal  Postal Delivery (Air Mail):  $US 5.00

       ==============================================

Registred Priority (Air Mail) $US 10.00

 

 

If this sounds interesting to you, then get an envelope

and piece of paper and write down what you'd like to order.

 

When you have made your decision,

write down your return address and Emailadress "clearly" (pls: not hand written)

or print out on a label.

and wrap the money in some thick paper with your order.

 

* Don't use the "global priority mail" envelopes .

** Don't send your order by fedex or tnt because they don't deliver to poboxes .

 

Then go to the Post Office and send it to us via (registered) mail.

 

Here is our mailing adress:

 

Health Innovations Ned BV.

P.O. Box 8955

1006 JD  Amsterdam

The Netherlands (Western-Europe).

 

 

With Regards,

 

Marc & Co.

Marc the Deal-maker

Marc Haarhuis, Director, Cannabis Experience Amsterdam

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E-mail: marc.haarhuis@europe.com

 

Main website:http://come.to/softdrugs4u

 

ICQ UN 22797083  

 

http://wwp.mirabilis.com/22797083  

 

* your cheapest investment 1 gram + shipping = only 20 dollar !!!

** A good source of cannabis is www.yahooka.com or www.cannabis.com or www.cannabinoid.com or www.cannabis.org

*** A source of making money to buy our products is http://www.bepaid.com/users.rhtml?REFID=11090985

http://www.desktopdollars.com/default.asp?id=dealmaker

http://www.jackpot.com/win.asp?ref=217-0583

**** link our Website: http://come.to/softdrugs4u/

[Ferre]

And this is the second :

 

Dear future customer,

 

29 E-mail questions from customers to marc.haarhuis@europe.com

____________________________________________________________________

 

1. Q:  How do take your money?  Money order?  Credit card? Cash?

   A:  Cash?---it is cheap, untraceable, and easy

to exchange. Money order is also possible but the exchange costs are 15 US$.

 

2. Q:  Can I pay in another currency?

A:  Yes, but ask first before ordering; mainly we prefer US dollars.

There is a special website for rates of money at

http://www.oanda.com/ or http://www.xe.net/currency/

 

3. Q:  You mentioned speedy delivery---what does this mean?

A:  By airplane delivery.

 

4. Q:  Federal Express or UPS?

A:  Rather not... those guys are way too nosy !

 

5. Q:  How do package the goods so no one can tell what it is?

A:  In a blank envelope with no indications of its contents on it.

If you want that we use your own packageing which is stealthy enough then send it us. We try to be flexibel for our customers.  

 

6. Q:  How long have you been doing this?

A:  We have contact with several Amsterdam coffeeshops who have over

10 years in the business, and we are on the Internet many years now.

 

7. Q:  How do I know that my name and address won't be given

to the authorities?

A:  Why should we do this?  This is not a way to keep customers

satisfied.  Your name and address will remain confidential.

 

8. Q:  What is your webpage if you have one?

A:  http://come.to/softdrugs4u

 

Plus, we have a few mirror sites to change to if the webmaster

kicks us out.

 

9. Q:  Can I get a sample of your products?

A:  No, but you can send us a trial order of 1 gram to find out if

everything is working.

 

10. Q:  How much can I order?

A:  Keep your order below 10 grams, because of detection risk at high volumes.

 

11. Q:  Your reviewing page (http://members.xoom.com/softdugs/review.html is under construction)

       is not equal to your product list.  Why is that?

A:  Yes, that's true, but we are waiting on more reviews from users.

 

12. Q:  Do you have PGP encryption for e-mail messages?

A:  Yes, of course we prefer PGP to work with.  

If you don't have PGP, this is a site where you can

download the latest version (7.0):

ftp://ftp.hacktic.nl/pub/crypto/pgp/  (search for the version named 7.0 zip)

 

13. Q:  What kind of packaging do you send it in?

A:  An unsuspicious envelope.

 

14. Q:  Is it secure and sniffer-dog proof?

A:  Yes of course, we are not stupid.

 

15. Q:  Do you send your products worldwide?

A:  Yes, to any destination.

 

16. Q: what is the minimum of canabis that you sell?

A:  1 gram

 

17. Q: Do you have a icq-number ?

A:  Yes, our UN number is 22797083, you can download ICQ on www.mirabilis.com or www.icq.com

 

18. Q: Can we get a free pricelist every month ?

A:  Yes, just subscribe to : amsterdam-cannabis-subscribe@egroups.com  to receive the pricelist

 

19. Q: Is it possible to discus with other people about cannabis as a medicine ?

A:  Yes, just subscribe to : medical-cannabis-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

 

20. Q: Do you have a phone number where we can reach you ?

A:  Not, anymore... Just email me at: Marc.Haarhuis@Europe.com

 

21. Q: Can you send it secured registred and with arrival notification

A:  Yes, Registred Priority (Air Mail) $US 10.00

 

22. Q: Do you have pictures of your medical products ?

A:  No, but we do suggest to take al ook at the smokersguide.com

 

23. Q: Do you know somebody who can give more information about mdma,xtc

A:  Yes, a friend of us Dr. Ron Masters can give you more information:

   mailto:ron-masters@ohdie.com

 

24. Q: Is it common for customs to intercept?

A:  No, but there is always a certain risc, and it can happen ofcourse.

 

25. Q: If customs does intercept, will they come looking for me?

A:  No, but they can notify you.

 

26. Q: Does it sometimes take a long time to arrive?

A:  Yes, this is the postal services in the world who work slowly.

 

27. Q: Why  avoid the "Global Priority mail" envelopes ?

A:  Because, the employies steal money out of these envelopes.

 

28. Q: How can we promote you ?

A:  Yes, by putting the html code into your own webpage:

 

<center>

             <a href="http://www.egroups.nl/subscribe/medical-cannabis">

             <img src="http://www.egroups.nl/img/ui/join.gif" border=0><br>

             Click to subscribe to medical-cannabis</a>

</center>

 

29. Q: How long does it take for you to get an order from the US and then send it back?

A:  Yes, 14 days to us, and another 14 days to you average

 

If you have more questions, send email to: Marc.Haarhuis@Europe.com

 

 

 

Health Innovations Ned BV.

P.O. Box 8955

1006 JD  Amsterdam

The Netherlands (Western-Europe).

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Marc & Co.

Marc the Deal-maker

Marc Haarhuis, Director, Cannabis Experience Amsterdam

=======================================================

 

E-mail: marc.haarhuis@europe.com

 

Website:http://come.to/softdrugs4u

[Ferre]

some good tips on how to mail, but if you ask me,...this sounds like an online coffeeshop using the "medicine" part as an excuse.

 

I've never heard of "medical pyote", or "medical hasj" in fact, some of the hasj on that list is filled up with unhealthy stuff,..you can be practically sure of all the cheap maroccan hasj.

hehey,..any one in for some "medical San Pedro" ? ::

[Marc Haarhuis]

----- email ----->> marc.haarhuis@europe.com <<----- email -----

 

 

This is our small pricelist of: January 2002

 

Once again:

Become a member of our e-groups, and you always have access to our full version of the catalogue !

 

Medicinal Weed Menu:

====================

 

Bio:

===

Bubble Gum $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Colombian $US/Euro 12.50 1/gram

Colombian special offer $US/Euro 45.00 5/grams

Jack Herer $US/Euro 14.50 1/gram

Santa Esmeralda $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Sensi Star $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Super Skunk $US/Euro 13.50 1/gram

White Widow $US/Euro 14.50 1/gram

Thai $US/Euro 13.50 1/gram

Warlock Haze $US/Euro 16.50 1/gram

 

Hydro:

=====

Ak-47 $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Jamaica $US/Euro 12.50 1/gram

K2 $US/Euro 13.50 1/gram

Kabouter $US/Euro 14.00 1/gram

Kali Mist $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Snow white $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Top 44 $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

 

Medicinal Hashish Menu:

=======================

Afghaan $US/Euro 12.50 1/gram

Afghaan special offer* $US/Euro 45.00 5/grams

Dutch Moonshine $US/Euro 27.50 1/gram

Maroc $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

Pollen $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

Puntjes $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

Super Maroc $US/Euro 15.00 1/gram

Skuff $US/Euro 22.00 1/gram

Temple Ball* $US/Euro 17.50 1/gram

Zero zero $US/Euro 13.00 1/gram

Zero Zero Special $US/Euro 50.00 5/grams

 

We do sell from 1 gram to a max. of 10 grams !

 

----- email ----->> marc.haarhuis@europe.com <<----- email -----

[Ferre]

heya Marc, welcome to Ozstoners, tell us,

 

How can "puntjes", "Maroc", "Zero Zero", "Super Maroc", EVER BE "MEDICAL"??

 

Maroccan Hasj is known for it's "additives" !

[Rokerijdude11]

t-boat Agreed

 

the marocs are some of the dirtiest hasj on the planet!!

of all the hasj listed i only see one that could be considered medical grade hasj and that may be the dutch moonshine depending on what weed was used to make it and how well it was processed in the ice water.If they were lazy then it will have impurities in it but still head and shoulders above the rest of the hasj listed.

 

what surprised me the most is that the prices arent much higher than if you dropped into the katsu or the Central shoppes. pricing seems about that of norm retail in most of the shoppes.leads me to believe that the guys that are offering are probably holed up in an apt in haarlem or on the outskirts of town growing for the shoppes.hence the ability to provide costs that are in line with what you may pay in a shoppe although the central is one of the better kept secrets in the dam and pricing is good

 

 

his hasj list looks like a partial list from the bluebird if ya ask me.for med grade hasj there should be alot more of the ice hasj varietys like clear clear helter skelter and some of the others.I wonder how much if any actually makes it to the states? it is tempting as i am down to 2 grams of clear clear from katsu and about 4 grams of ice water crystals non pressed that i picked up from mila last november. and im not due in the dam till sept!!!

 

 

t-boat cool name were you involved with the t-boat? cool shoppe right on the water a lil small and sometimes the weather sucked and made it a lil uncomfortable but in its day a great shopppe on a sunny afternoon with the water lappng the sides of the boat. in its day it was a fine shoppe great staff and cool place. By the way nice to meet you always glad to meet a dutchman online.

 

who knows maybe if we become friends we can burn a few come september?

 

 

seems to me when it comes to amsterdam hasj and weed a fellow amsterdammer would know the time of day,so t-boats words are sound and true cool site you have by the way,dropped in there today pretty cool nice to meet you all see ya soon on the board

 

Rokerijdude11

[Ferre]

Nice to meet you too Rokerijdude. Am I involved with the T-boat?,... I'm VERY involved, I'm one of the owners and the admin/webmaster. So you know Mila, she's a very good friend of me, I even helped her setting up the HempHotel, I love to chill in the night bar there btw, you do know your way out here very well, you're so right about the Central coffeeshop, it's one of the best.

Good to see you agree here, I wouldn't sell that marroccan crap as "medical" and when I posted this, I emailed Mark Haarhuis, out of honesty, with this link, asked him to reply but the only thing he did was register and put his new pricelist up(?)

Hey man, you're very welcome at the T-boat when you're here, at the moment it's my office, I have my puters here, in my own private "coffeeshop" on the water but the Amsterdam Cannabis Ministry is going to be located at the "formel" T-boat and than it will be back open for public again. The website is allready up(there's a link in my signature) and I'll be there too, as I'm the founder of the THC-Ministry Amsterdam. At present time our lawyers are bussy to get it all official and legal and it's just a matter of time for the Ministry to be all "official", and the T-boat a place for everyone to chill out again. So yeah, hope to see you in september and we burn a few(one 's a bit "weinig", don't you think?

[onlinepot]

I spotted this thread from a stats link from my website, & thought that you folks should know that you need to be carefull when dealing thru the internet, espessially with Marc H, I would not go as far as saying that he is a scammer?? but the majority of people who use his serivce do not get their letter safely! for every 1 that does get it safely, 20 more DO NOT! & marc does NOT reship lost orders, most legits will reship a lost order opon proof of the green customs tape!

 

MARC DOES NOT!

 

there are legits out there!

 

But legits DO NOT NEED TO POST PUBLICLY

 

word of mouth alone will keep them very busy

 

here is a site called Scam Search for you to check BEFORE you send anyone money! its not a perfect list, but its the best out there so far!

 

http://scams.xyz.ro/

 

if I can be of any further help just let me know.

 

stay well chris kenoyer

Florida State Director AAMC

American Alliance For Medical Cannabis

 

http://www.onlinepot.org

The Complete Guide To Medical Marijuana

 

& for a listing of the worse Online Scammers check out my "Hall Of Shame" Page

 

http://www.onlinepot.org/mailing_scams/hallofshame.htm

[Ferre]

Hey thanx for that info onlinepot, I'm sure it's very usefull and will save a lot of money and agony for people who are looking to get their medicine and much too often don't get what they so hardly need.

I also don't understand why someone would want to sell crap like he has for maroccan hasj as "medical"?

There are ms patients and people with cancer who use cannabis and I wonder if mr. Haarhuis knows crappy polluted hasj won't do any good for those people? The thing is.....I think he MUST know, every one knows that here.

[Tom]

Welcome to Oz Stoner's onlinepot, thanks for the warning and link, it’s good to know that there is something like that out there for us to check.

 

http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/ruinkai/coolgleamA.gif

[chemist]

I spotted this thread from a stats link from my website, & thought that you folks should know that you need to be carefull when dealing thru the internet, espessially with Marc H, I would not go as far as saying that he is a scammer...

 

http://scams.xyz.ro/

 

A FOAF tells me he has had about 80% success getting orders from MH through to Australia.

 

I wonder who's the scammer. It's commonplace on some forums for *all* the regulars to be denounced as "scammers" or "feds". Look at adpc.

 

cheers,

chemist