Cannabis use damages teen brains

[Gush]

That's great! You should feel very lucky at having a sound source of real MDMA. It is a beautiful drug, and can show you wonderful things.....The "ecstacy" I was talking about is a far cry from MD, and are mostly either Speed, Smack or Kedemine based. (Although a good smack-based can be very similair to real MD).

As far as "harmful", technically that's the definition of any drug (except the Herb :smoke). Speed is by far the most harmful, and Speed based pills, hence the majority of pills youngsters can get their hands on, are a lot more harmful than a shot of MD.

[Bubble Bags Australia]

Unfortunetly I dont have that same source here, that was back in Canada, and from what I understand from my asking around, pure MDMA or even high quality E is non existant here, which really makes me sad.

[bloodshot_eyes]

From what I've heard, Australian E is some of the most dangerous in the Western World. You really do not know whats in it.

[Brash]

TEENAGERS who use cannabis are up to 10 times more likely to develop serious mental illness ...

Thank God I'm an old fart

[Mushaman]

Unfortunetly I dont have that same source here, that was back in Canada, and from what I understand from my asking around, pure MDMA or even high quality E is non existant here, which really makes me sad.

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Heya Meerkat

I reckon the research is in ... everyone that uses mdma will eventually hit a point where they have used up their supply of seratonin ... check around, do you know many people that have taken many doses over say 5-10 years and can still say the pills are working?

 

you more likely to hear "the qualities gone to shit" ... "prob just a bad batch" "hmm, prob. MDA/MDE " or more usually (imo and I get around) "we just dont get pills like they used to make anymore" ? I reckon its that EVERYONE gets to that point eventually and those ecstatic, beautiful, insightful early experiences are replaced with way more negative effects - I'm speaking from personal experience but I know many many others who fall into this category - so my advice is go very slow and enjoy while you can .... read current research on long term side effects - plenty online that wasnt there 10 years ago - btw, I also take 5HTP now, daily, but with me I'd say the damage is done, but it does help.

:mellow:

[Gush]

everyone that uses mdma will eventually hit a point where they have used up their supply of seratonin

Depressing......isnt it? ::

Scary though, just think in 10/20 years time there is going to be a lot of pissed off old people walking around!.......or maybe wheeling around :scratchin .....anyhoo, should make the local bingo night a bit more interesting... :smoke

[Chev]

Heya Meerkat

I reckon the research is in ... everyone that uses mdma will eventually hit a point where they have used up their supply of seratonin ... check around, do you know many people that have taken many doses over say 5-10 years and can still say the pills are working?

I'd say the same for Crystal Meth, it basically kills your bodies ability to produce it's own natural high, and your world eventually becomes pretty grey......sad eh. I'm pretty sure it kills the body's ability to produce seratonin.

[Mushaman]

Ay, bloody sad and I'd say we're just starting to see the flow on effects of all the party people trying to adjust their lives to what appears to be a gray, grim present and future I agree crystal is probably gonna be an even bigger problem -

 

I think pills have a more subtle effect ... (crystal users tend to stand out a bit more, no?) like you can take pills for years before you realise there may be a problem ... they still feel nice ... you just need two now, right? then ... they dont work and just give you bad effects - anyway, to roll back towards the point of the post, I actually believe its true that pot smoking does lead you to try other substances .. I am where I am, and its way too late to worry about screwing my teenage brain .. but what am I gonna do with my children .. one of whom is now 18 ... holy shit! she knows I smoke and from what I know, she doesn't .... but she has started smoking cigs I think ... some deep thought on the parenting front while trying to balance my desire (and maybe right) to keep smoking :scratchin

thanks to Tom for the post tho' - food for thought and introspection (reaches for his stash)

[Hanky]

That's why 5-HTP is such good stuff Chev. Pre-loading with 5-HTP makes all the difference.

[wildflower]

I know a few cases of people that went from E,MDMA and other lame shit to smack. Reason that was obvious to everyone i knew was the fact that like Chev said

the body loses its ability to produce it's own natural high - so alot ended up on smack it was the only thing that made them feel good some then OD'd later on.

I've never taken that shit ever..herb and beer thats it.