Jess has hooked Paul DILLON on a blog !

[MongyMan]

I'm not really shore why u are attacking Paul Dillon Jess, from what i could see from watching the sunrise show and his reply to you in the blog, he agrees with you 100% and I quote " I agree with the fact that much of the information out in the public domain comes from the prohibition lobby and is factually incorrect. Media misreporting and sensationalism doesn't help!

 

Those that are trying to use a report - that highlights the concerning shift from cannabis, to a use of alchohol by Australia's youth - to further the anti-cannabis campaign are the ones that should be ridiculed imo.

[DownUnderDoper]

Those that are trying to use a report - that highlights the concerning shift from cannabis, to a use of alchohol by Australia's youth - to further the anti-cannabis campaign are the ones that should be ridiculed imo.

 

You mean like this???

 

Government’s message on the dangers of cannabis hit home

 

“For years the Prime Minister and I have been making the point that cannabis is not a benign or harmless drug, and we have recently seen increasing evidence supporting a link between cannabis use, and severe mental illness,” Mr Pyne said.

 

“The facts are that users of cannabis can be prone to schizophrenia and psychotic episodes not dissimilar to the use of other illicit drugs like Ice,” he said.

 

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/minister...=2007&mth=2

[DownUnderDoper]

Would now be the pertinent time to pose the question.. If cannabis use has been such a cause of mental health problems and usage is falling, when should we expect to see the corresponding drop in mental illness??

[MongyMan]

Exactly like that DownUnderDoper. Mr Pyne MP has to be one of the worst I have seen for spouting inacurate dribble in aid of his own personal moral vendetta.

[Jess Stone]

I took this forums criticisms onboard and moderated the story (a lot ) I had put up on drugtestscam as pointed out personal attacks are nasty, yet you have to admit they work Yea I don't hate Dillon but he does shit me,always popping up in the media to give his "expert" opinion for money,even if his TV appearances are unpaid (?) he is well paid in his job which he uses to push the position of the Government in general as ultimately through funding that is who pays him and you don't bite the hand that feeds , do you? Especially with big fat mortgages or credit card debts and a swanky lifestyle that the real dole wont the hell pay for.Don't ask me specifics about him as we are talking about years and years of propaganda that has from time to time caught my attention ,maybe one was that NON-XTC death Anna Wood(?) the water overdose thats always claimed as XTC death, if not that, others and frankly it would take more research than I could be bothered spending on him (for accuracies sake)

ps as for comments on OzSt,well its not that unusual for a hell of a lot of us to discuss these and other people in fairly derogatory terms and its just between us on OzStoners, so I'll continue being "descriptive" on OzSt.

Edited February 21, 2007 by Jess Stone

[Pa-uul]

I file a motion to object to this member "Jess Stone". There's something cynical about the tone here. We have heard of the saboteurs of za revolutions of many movements ....

 

Jess, you say:

its just between us rolleyes.gif on OzStoners..

But on this blog you link to it says:

Well at least you admit it Dillon, you shill...Your a joke...

in response to a post from him. Well that's directly to him, that's not between us.

 

You get Paul Dillon to respond to your initial post in that other blog where he actually mentions the words "prohibitionist lobby" and in the response you insult him, calling him a "shill", instead of harnessing the opportunity to engage this apparent opening from him. On this other thread you write: TERRORISTS in huge red letters as if we can't read, telling us that "you love us". I feel like you're ransacking my thread with a bunch of gibberish.

 

Have a look at this poster, Steve's, response to Jess on that blog . Also on this blog there another user called TRIZO who is also spewing reckless violent rhetoric.

 

I went to a communist party dinner, once in Brisbane years ago, and there were two men there who were drunk and unruly the whole way through the speeches. They constantly disrupted the meeting with heckles and ruined it for me. But no-one seemed to be willing to confront them and tell them to piss-off. I have always suspected they were stooges from the government.

 

My friends, we have ourselves a couple of ransackers here in the users "Jess Stone" and "TRIZO"; saboteurs of the revolution. I move, therefore, to expel this member "Jess Stone" from the site. Yee'hah, L'bamba! C'mon, let's ride 'em out of town!

[freddie]

As someone who has done virtually nothing for the mj cause (apart from a recent letter to sunrise) i am in on position to criticise Jess. At least someone is having a go. I just worry about how the media could use abusive letters as examples of crazy dope fiends. The media hold all the power unfortunately.

 

Would now be the pertinent time to pose the question.. If cannabis use has been such a cause of mental health problems and usage is falling, when should we expect to see the corresponding drop in mental illness??

 

This is exactly what i would like to see asked. If cannabis causes schizophrenia than why does the rate of schizophrenia remain a constant 1% in any society regardless of the rate of cannabis use?

[Indycar]

Yes, tend to agree with others. It's good to see Jesse pro-active. But the angle and insults basically undo all your good work. Not only that, if the media gets wind of Jesse and the OzStoners link. We'll all get thrown in the same boat and labelled by the sheeples, and in turn can be used against us. I know i'll be mighty pissed if that ever happens.

 

Don't get me wrong jesse, i admire your passion. Just probably be beneficial to keep your emotions in check when chasin' the big fish. Please don't fuck it up for all of us with your rantings.

 

P.S. Any wanker growin' 200 plants hydroponically around kids probably deserves 24 years in the pen. Those people fuck it up for the rest of us. Because it'd be fairly evident it's not personal. I do believe the big time growers are fuckin' it up for us personal growers to end prohibition. I've got no compassion for people who are blinded by the mighty $$$.

 

[pipeman]

I think at the end of the day Jess is just frustrated and realises things will probably never change, so he's just happy venting his frustration and getting some satisfaction by giving people a piece of his mind.

 

but the end result of what he's doing is nothing more than providing the anti-cannabis lobby with more evidence that smoking dope makes ya go crazy. Its true, Jess is crazy, but its the laws that made him that way, not the drug. But no one will understand that.

 

I don't see why we should try to exclude him. Exclude him from what? We're not doing anything other than sending some emails out, and he doesn't need to be a member of Oz Stoners to do that.

[Indycar]

For the record, I don't want to see Jesse ousted...

 

Just don't want to see him viewed as Oz Stoners mouthpiece for the fight against prohibition. I know a lot will say that's not the case. But as we've seen of these Big Fish in the past, is that their not renouned for doing their research thoroughly and might just put two 'n two together and make it look that way.