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coolcat
can someone help me :thumbsup with ripping dvd on a mac ??
i just got new G5
thanks
dsyfer
Not that I use a mac, but here are some links (I hope it's ok to post them here)

http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/downloads/apple/

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/22715
F420
Only advice I can give, is to buy a REAL computer.
Eikel
QUOTE(Ferengi420 @ Jul 7 2005, 09:42 AM)
Only advice I can give, is to buy a REAL computer.


Well then he would be buying a Mac, or a PC With a free-Unix-like OS on it.

Macs have come along way since OS version 9 - the OSX BSD-based Macs are FAAAAR Superior to the PC equivilent. (I'm assuming you haven't seen OSX, as no-one with any computing knowledge would refer to an OSX Mac as an "non-REAL" computer).

As an example:

My 1GHz 512Mb PowerMac G4 shits all over my PIV 3.2Ghz 2GB system in terms of REAL performance (i.e. encoding/decoding, compliling, even general GUI use).

The only downside of Macs is the software availble for them is limited - but this is due to the PC monopoly that exists.

But personally - I really don't give a shit what people run, I just want my computers to work. wink.gif

CoolCat - next time you come around, bring your G5 and we'll spend some time on it together.
dsyfer
People talk about Microsoft having a monopoly, but try to buy anything for a mac (software or hardware) that hasn't been approved and licensed from Apple, at least if I want a new piece of hardware for my pc I can get whatever I want, and then download a freeware program to help run it (total cost not much), on the other hand if I need something for a mac, then I have to buy the apple approved part (which has had 17 designers working for 2 years to make it look "cutting edge") then buy the proprietry software, probably from a mac store (cause no one else want sto stock man stuff) only to find that I have now voided my warrenty because I didn't have a apple certified elitist fit the stupid thing.

Sorry I just had to whinge about something.
F420
I knew I would get a rise outta somebody laugh.gif, tongue.gif


as no-one with any computing knowledge would refer to an OSX Mac as an "non-REAL" computer

Sums me up nicely, :laugh.gif:

peace.gif
Eikel
QUOTE(dsyfer @ Jul 8 2005, 09:35 AM)
People talk about Microsoft having a monopoly, but try to buy anything for a mac (software or hardware) that hasn't been approved and licensed from Apple, at least if I want a new piece of hardware for my pc I can get whatever I want, and then download a freeware program to help run it (total cost not much), on the other hand if I need something for a mac, then I have to buy the apple approved part (which has had 17 designers working for 2 years to make it look "cutting edge") then buy the proprietry software, probably from a mac store (cause no one else want sto stock man stuff) only to find that I have now voided my warrenty because I didn't have a apple certified elitist fit the stupid thing.

Sorry I just had to whinge about something.


Everything you describe is possible on a current model Mac. I agree with F420 about buying a REAL computer if your Mac is older and running anything less than OSX.

If you put "non-Dell" approved hardware in a Dell PC you voided your warranty.
If you put "Non-HP" approved hardware in an HP PC you voided your warranty.

Every single manufacturer acts like you describe mate, it's not an Apple-specific thing wink.gif

Try buying 8MB of RAM for $2,000 because it's got a sticker on it that says "Cisco".
Eikel
QUOTE(Ferengi420 @ Jul 8 2005, 09:49 AM)
I knew I would get a rise outta somebody laugh.gif, tongue.gif
as no-one with any computing knowledge would refer to an OSX Mac as an "non-REAL" computer

Sums me up nicely,  :laugh.gif:


Heh, Sorry Ferengi, I didn't realise how offensive that statement seemed when I wrote it.

Basically I used to tell people the same thing - "You've got a Mac? Toss it and buy a REAL computer", however, I was then exposed to the bliss that is OSX and the current Mac (G4/G5) Hardware.

I wasn't having a go or anything, just wanted people who were like me and thought Macs suck to have another look - they've finally entered the 21st century along with the other manufacturers.

So yeah, no offense intended peace.gif
F420
None taken buddy,

The problem at my end is I have programs that cost heaps like MYOB, and payroll etc that can only work on a PC.

wink.gif
Eikel
QUOTE(Ferengi420 @ Jul 8 2005, 10:33 AM)
None taken buddy,

The problem at my end is I have programs that cost heaps like MYOB, and payroll etc  that can only work on a PC.


I run MYOB, Quicken, Even SQL Server and Office on my Virtual PC for Mac. The Mac has a Windows emulator that comes as part of the Office for Mac suite.

It's quite useful because I can run a server in the emulator and then connect to it from within the Mac OS itself wink.gif
F420
oh sweet, I may look in to a mac as my daughter needs one.
fsagertyaef
as a mac and pc user i wouldsay go for a pc if you weant o do most stuff if you want graphic design or photo things go for a mac memory pc cool looking cheap stuff pc and basically your veryother need pc sorry i hate this mac im on
Pure
QUOTE(EIkel @ Jul 8 2005, 10:04 AM)

Every single manufacturer acts like you describe mate, it's not an Apple-specific thing wink.gif

Try buying 8MB of RAM for $2,000 because it's got a sticker on it that says "Cisco".
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thats not entierly true although dell and HP do it , there are many systems you can get that don't require you to use specific brands of hardware ,

IBM for instance supply hardware but they don't force you to have to use theres peace.gif


as far as the waranty goes end users are not allowed to install hardware at all if they don't want to effect thier warranty , the exception is if you have an arangement with your supplier or manufacturer, in the case of both ibm and dell you simply have to apply to become a listed technician

personaly I think a persons choice in computer should really reflect what they need to do on it and thier skill level, if your doing multimedia work and your a power user then a better option for you is most likely a MAC as it's unqueastionable that they lead the industry for design and multimedia ( including music production ) and if your a security geek or all round computer user then your probably best lookign at linux as it will most likely suit you better.

Most people fal linto the thrid catagory thoguh of peopel who use computers because it's the way the world went and they didn't wanna be left behind , for these peopel I would say windows in undoubtably the best Operating system , and beign able to call someon elike dell to come and fix up your machine on site should anythign go wrong is exatly what they want as they have no clue about it all themselfs smile.gif

My personal vote for all round system would go to Sun Microsystems , but as I said i think they all have thier ups and downs and it depends on whats best for you
Eikel
QUOTE(Pure @ Jul 8 2005, 01:37 PM)
thats not entierly true although dell and HP do it , there are many systems you can get that don't require you to use specific brands of hardware ,

IBM for instance supply hardware but they don't force you to have to use theres peace.gif
as far as the waranty goes end users are not allowed to install hardware at all if they don't want to effect thier warranty ,  the exception is if you have an arangement with your supplier or manufacturer, in the case of both ibm and dell you simply have to apply to become a listed technician


Actually Pure - that's entirely true, unless I misunderstood what you're saying.

An "Open PC" which I believe you're referring to (in terms of non-specific hardware brands), is not made and assembled by a single manufacturer, but normally would be done by a retail PC shop. Even the lesser-known PC mass-producers (Ocktek for instance, when they were around) require some sort of Standard-Operating-Environment complying within their Hardware-Compatability Lists etc..

IBM will force you to use their hardware providing you're buying one of their "branded" systems - if you're buying individual IBM componentry (i.e. CPU's, NICs, etc etc...) then you would be expected to be an OEM yourself.

I have alot of info around hardware manfacturers if you're interested, including I believe the due-diligence done by IBM when they were tendering for NCS's (Division of NAB) supply-contract.

But yeah, what I said is a fact, if you buy a "Manufactured/Branded" PC from someone other than a local computer builder, you WILL be expected to comply with hardware-compatability-lists et al otherwise your warranty/service-contracts etc, etc.. are void. This is even more evident when dealing with laptops and pre-build server systems etc.

You can always buy an "Intel Certified" (also known as an "Intel Whitebox") server which doesn't lock you into a single manufacturer, but even they have a list of certified hardware with which you have to remain compliant.

Not having a go or anything, just spreading the knowledge around wink.gif
Eikel
QUOTE(Ferengi420 @ Jul 8 2005, 11:54 AM)
oh sweet, I may look in to a mac as my daughter needs one.


Does she need a Mac specifically? Or just a PC.

For around a grand the Mac-Mini is a good buy, Macs are great if you just want a "standard" computer with which to browse/e-mail/game etc etc...

If you wanna do stuff like ripping DVD's or playing online multiplayer first-person shooters or something you're probably better-off with an Intel or AMD based PC running Windows.

I use my Mac primarily for work (although I have Warcraft III, Civilizations, Sim City 4 and other games installed), and my PC primarily for fun. The Macs give you many less headaches than a PC in a standard working envrionment, where as PC's give you much more availble functionality for fun or dabbling in terms of sotware.
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