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niall
A nice fellow from Families and Friends for Drug Law Reform is trying to confirm some cannabis figures. Can anyone help confirm some of these?:

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I need some help to update or revise my figures on cannabis consumption.
Could someone please advise me if my figures are still right or where they
need to be changed.

13 cones = 1 gm
3 - 4 joints = 1 gm
a daily cannabis user consumes 35 gm per month
about 80% smoke cones
an average user will smoke about 40 joints or cones per year

14% use daily
13.5% use a few times per week
11% use weekly
18.1% use monthly
11.7% use every few months
31.1% use once or twice per year

a hydroponic cannabis plant can produce up to 800gm of cannabis annually?
what is the average yield?
what is the average yield of an outdoor plant?
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Clearly we don't have an accurate sample of cannabis users here, but some of the measurements we could confirm - 13 cones/g, 3-4 joints/g, yields per plant etc.?
Tom
Way too many variables, what size cone or joint, spun or not? There are no standard sizes for either or for the percentage of spin. How much does a daily cannabis smoker use? If for medical reasons then it could be an ounce or more per week, for recreational users it can vary drastically depending on how busy they are or how many sessions they have with mates and I know smokers that would go through 20 - 30 cones a day, let alone 40 a year.

The percentages cannot be termed as accurate and researchers will have a hard time getting many of us paranoid smokers to admit freely to mj use whilst it remains illegal but I do know of a doctor that claims around 50% of patients have used or are regular users, I would rely more on figures like that as people are more honest with their doctors than they are with someone knocking on their door with a clipboard full of questions.

The average yield of a plant depends again on many variables such as strain, grow method, lighting/weather, added nutrients, CO2 availability or usage, etc.

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Clearly we don't have an accurate sample of cannabis users here, but some of the measurements we could confirm - 13 cones/g, 3-4 joints/g, yields per plant etc.?
Oz Stoner's is probably the most accurate sample of cannabis users available in Australia at this time, more mj users use this site than any other Australian mj site on the net.
Luke Skywalker
I would disagree that we're an accurate sample tom, most of us are growers or interested in doing as such. A large proportion of smokers would never smoke more than once a month, let alone once a week or daily as some of us do.

And yeah, there are far too many variables to make statements about the "average" daily user...

Yeilds per plant is likewise too variable to say... some growers only grow plants to a couple of feet high and get an ounce of each one, but grow many. They may grow hundreds of cannabis plants a year. Some may grow various strains through the year, it's a lot quicker to grow to harvest indoors...
Tom
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I would disagree that we're an accurate sample tom, most of us are growers or interested in doing as such.
Yeah, but what I mean is, is there a better source of information available at this time? The anomnity of this site is more likely to encourage people to be honest rather than cagey with any information. In fact a lot of the required information has probably been posted here already, it just needs to be located. :laugh.gif:

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niall
QUOTE(Tom @ Jun 28 2004, 11:35 PM)
Way too many variables

Best guess mate - tell me what you think.

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what size cone or joint, spun or not?


Assume your standard, small brass bonza cone, no spin.

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How much does a daily cannabis smoker use? If for medical reasons then it could be an ounce or more per week, for recreational users it can vary drastically depending on how busy they are or how many sessions they have with mates and I know smokers that would go through 20 - 30 cones a day, let alone 40 a year.


Of course, but we're talking averages here. The guy has research data, and he'd just like to confirm if they're way out. If you can spot any clear discrepancies please comment.

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The percentages cannot be termed as accurate and researchers will have a hard time getting many of us paranoid smokers to admit freely to mj use whilst it remains illegal


Sure, but research data is the best the scientific community has. Until more accurate sampling can be made (and I personally believe it's fairly accurate already, go read one of their studies and look at what they take into account, their sample sizes and the approved methods of attracting participants), this is all the guy has.

I'm not asking us to come up with definitive answers, just comment on what your best guess would be.

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The average yield of a plant depends again on many variables such as strain, grow method, lighting/weather, added nutrients, CO2 availability or usage, etc.


Hence average - taking all of these variables into account, what do you think the average plant would yield? Say 3-4oz? 20oz? 1oz?

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Oz Stoner's is probably the most accurate sample of cannabis users available in Australia at this time, more mj users use this site than any other Australian mj site on the net


I'd tend to agree, but I'd qualify that with "online cannabis users" - we're most definitly not an accurate sample, or the most accurate sample that researchers have access to.
LoveMeBucket
heya niall,

My "Averages" tongue.gif

Average stick bag (25bux) is 1.5 grams and smokes up to 24 cones for me :laugh.gif: biggrin.gif

the joint one sounds about right.. what a waste of weed laugh.gif

most ppl i know get 3-4 oz dry off the "average" sized hydro plant (indica)

goodluck with the research wink.gif biggrin.gif

bucket
niall
QUOTE(LoveMeBucket @ Jun 29 2004, 11:24 PM)
My "Averages"  tongue.gif

Cheers mate, exactly what I was after biggrin.gif
pipeman
I have two stems in aromazap and am completely fucked. Hope that helped biggrin.gif
new2this
laugh.gif.. to funny.. how much does one smoke...hmmm

i could smoke 3-4 grams a day..so can alot of ppl a have meet in life...
i have reatlves that can and do the same .. a Oz chit thats good for a week depends on the moods after work and what not...
i use it for joint pain aswell as head high...but mostle want my smoke for the body buzz...but like one guy on here now has to give up his grow over bs.... but i have to say feel for you who can't goto store for our seeds....

but like one said At lease Keep one plaint.... i know here they can't do shit over 3 plaints.....

Peace
new2this
Ps.......i also did not have a good turn out with my grow.....

but what i did score with its not bad at all....#3 plaints...... mite last me..hmmmmmm a week... that bad.... but have 5 more under 12/12....

cloned afew more there not looking as good.....again bad luck and the dealer makes more money off me :angry: sad.gif :angry:

Any ways Happy high all
FUKN_BISH
high all,

well i smoke about 3.5 grams by myself in about 3-5 dayz ... i have a little tobasco in my mix to make it smoother (dont like too much)

1 gram would come out to about approx. 15 - 20 cones

Hope that helps ... I need a little tobasco right now ... tried to smoke it straight and just made me couggh ... laugh.gif

~ ROCKmyJOCKs <!~~~~ wacko.gif
deeptoke
l can only talk on my experience so here it is:

10days veg/58days flower =3-4oz dry(nth light cross bberry)
10daysveg/55days flower =4-4.5oz dry(big bud)

l would agree that 4joints per gram and depending on how much tobacho added approx 15 cones per gram

l suffer cronic back pain and servere arthritis and after many operations can say for me only that smoking pot helps relieve pain(so l use less morphine) and also it reduces my anxiety in regards to the feelings of helplessness that are ever so present.
l smoke approx 10 joints per day(awake7:00am asleep12:00am)approx 17hrday
Pickle
Everyone i used to smoke with used to smoke at least 3 cones/session (usually 5) as many as 10 times/day but usually 7-8 times/day (breaky, morning tea, lunch, afternoon tea, arriving home, after dinner, about 8:30ish and about 10:30ish), everyday.

That was all the time, 3 cones was ration but if we had plenty we would smoke 5. Like i said, everyone i knew smoked like that not just me.
Meerkat
Are your figures needing to be about Australian cannabis use specifically ? As the British Columbia Marijuana Party has extremly extensive and researched statistics about marijuana use, particularly in Canada and the USA, but also around the world as well. I definetly think they would be the people to contact. I personally would say the two best people there to speak to are Chris Bennett who runs Pot TV and Richard Cowan who is their news reporter and David Malmo Lavine that is the official acitivist and researcher for the party. I dont have their individual contact addresses on me, but contact them through www.pot-tv.net or www.bcmarijuanaparty.com and they will help you out if they can.

As for your statistics, like everyone else said there are *way* too many variables for them to even be remotly accurate. Beleive it or not I have seen guys make joints packed with 4 grams of bubble hash (seriously) and I have seen miserly people that put the smallest amount of dirt weed into a joint, so you have both ends of the spectrum.
Infinitee
I agree that there are "way" too many variables.

For example i've just been on a month away from pot, and now my tolerance is drastically reduced and i use MUCH less.

I would smoke between 3-8 on an average day and now i'm slowly building up from around 2-3, coz it knocks me around a lot more.
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