I just read and answered the poll on using pot and tobacco together.Now it really hits me....You guys mean together in the same joint! I mean I realise that those of us on the west coast of Canada are spoiled with our abundance of the green.But what the hell are you people thinking?I mean yuck! You go through all the effort of producing a fine fragrant tasty herb,and mix it with tobacco?Oh well maybe I'm just some kind of freakin conniseur.I don't know anyone here who does that.....to each there own.Heck we don't even mix hash with tobacco,we use weed!

some people just like the taste of tobacco. I know I do. I prefer a spun joint to a pure weed joint, and I also don't mind sucking on a nice cigar now and then. Problem with cigars is, its fairly pricey to get the good stuff.

Its a result of the EVIL motherfuckers that sell pot, they like to sell it all soaking wet, cos the kids love that "sticky shit".
The kids all think, fuck this pot is so potent and sticky that chopping it rolls it all up into balls, and the evil motherfuckers continue to sell wet dope, that does not burn fuck all by itself.

Another reason is that if you buy a stick and you got 6 mates to smoke it as a youngin, than 4 spun-up cones is better than 2 & 1/2 non spun up ones. more cones seems like more stone.

And yeah theres an abundance of weed in australia too, but alot of dope smokers are poor.

Different strokes for different folks, in some places you'd be the one who's being disgusting by smoking such an impure product as buds and not smoking hashish constantly.

Most folk who grow there own dont use spin, and tobacco and hash????? yuck, thats just wrong mate.

I and alot of other cunts in Australia put spin with our mix for bongs aswell.

I don't like coughing like a little bitch whore.

When i first started smoking pot i did not smoke ciggas but when i did ciggas i still dident mix it until one day there was about 5 of us on a $20 and my mate said lets spin it so we get more cones out of it, that is how every one done it as thay recon it makes it go further but in the end u are still only smokeing the same amount of pot, i smoke with spin but am cutting it down more amd more until it gets to the point were i will smokeing my pot strait.

yeah some of us hate tobacco here,i would and have, thrown pot out the window that has spin in it,i would rather b straight then contaminate weed with that crap

I dont know how people can put spin in joints but I also dont know how you can smoke a straight cone of bud without choking on it [as I would]. Tobacco lets more weed burn in the cone also so its more efficient to spin your weed.

I use about 1 cigarette for a quarter so its not ruining the taste of the weed. Im a connoseur also and youre right - tobacco in joints ruins the joint.

I do not smoke spun joints AT ALL but I ALWAYS spin my session. Im a cigarette smoker also unless I have a lot of weed [I dont need cigarettes when I have plenty of stash - except to spin with my session *if the weed cost less Id just give up cigarettes for joints instantly as cigarettes are like a pacifier to me*].

yeah in our household we throw a bit of nick in to the bowl. I seem to cough my ass off if i dont

I really only smoke bongs, but on the rare occasion that i do smoke a joint i'll also stick a bit of spin in with that. i reckon it helps make it burn more evenly.

wade

THere was a time when I couldn't smoke any pot without spin. had nothing to do with burn or value, all to do with nicotine dependance. Don't kid yourself, that shit is addictive, especially when blasted into your lungs!

I dont smoke anything with bacco in it.
The way I see it is that if I want to smoke and take the risk of getting cancer etc, then i may as well smoke MJ.

I used to smoke about 30 cigs a day, but gave up before we planned having our kids. (it was just my excuse).

Anyways I have alot of kiwi friends and they laugh at us Aussies putting shit in out weed.

Whats the point of the tobacco anyways? all it does is makes me dizzy and tastes like shit. Defeats the reasoning behind smoking decent strains.

I don't smoke cigarettes, never have but I can't stand to smoke dope without it. I don't like the cigarette taste but dope without spin makes me cough my hole up.. anyone who smokes straight buds do you notice this? If I don't have spin usually I will only smoke out of desparation cause I hate coughing so much.

I always smoke it straight and yeah I could cough me ring out sometimes. I never realised adding tobacco stopped the coughing

When I first started smoking pot, the dudes who introduced to me to it always added some baccy ... back then I smoked ciggies but I haven't done that for a loooong time.

As for coughing your guts out when smoking straight pot - I'm not sure if I have just gotten used to it or it's because I usually only smoke pot that's been cured for a good coupla months. I use a vape 50% of the time but the other 50% I use a bong and don't have any drama's WRT coughing.

I only use spin if I'm smoking fairly fresh weed - which isn't that often.

I have to agree with White Cluster on the reasoning for the popularity or common practice of adding baccy to the mix. The earlier the dealer sells it the more it weighs due to the moisture content.

Before harvest i keep my plants in the dark for two days to try and reduce the chlorophyll (The stuff that gives the plant it's green colour and makes you hack - I think that's how you spell it) . Once havested I hang / dry my pot for 7-10 days, then put in some big brown paper bags for another couple of weeks (give or take) opening & stirring it daily, then jar em up and let it cure for a while (1-2 months). Try smoking that straight. I still manage to have a good hack every now & then but generally it smokes real smooth.

Tugboat

Tugboat, I agree with you there on a decent curing making a smoother smoke for sure.

I just realised while reading your post, I don't cough on my weed (and coughing generally) nearly as much since I gave up smoking ciggies. I think thats why I find it hard to imagine adding it to weed can mellow out a smoke,

I dont smoke cigs but mix my weed 40-60 weed maybe 35-65 ?Just a habit as thats how i started off and smoking green is good but couldnt do it all the time as it does get you coughing the more wacked ya get imo and smoking with baccy gives you a different stone imo each to there own either way just smoke it

Baccy's evil shit; I only smoke about 1 to 2 cones of uncut hydro in a pipe at each session...sure, I might have a small coughing fit more often than not, but I once I've had my splutter, I'm sweet as. Reminds me of a saying that an old girlfriend had: "If yer don't cough, yer don't get off!". Admittedly, the smoke is pretty strong (especially for a non-ciggy-smoker who comes from a long line of smokers in the family!) but it's damn economical. And I still get my buzz, all the while hearing new instruments and background riffs in the music I listen to.

I might look at the possibilty of investing in a vaporiser, as Pipeman mentions about somewhere in another thread (cheers pal!)—perhaps that'll give my lungs a bit of a break!

I say, keep it pure!

I used to hate people putting baccy with pot untill about 6yrs ago, I realised I'd always have about 6 cones to a sesh regadles of what it was hydro, bush, or crud, but with my cash drying up I had to start spinning it to get my daily dose, i think its probably a very unhealthy way to smoke, but as of a couple of weeks ago i stoped due to harvesting my crop, its nothing fancy gives me a fair stone, but best of all no more baccy and no more wasting $500+ each month buying shit weed off ripoff merchants and assorted low life wankers you have to deal with to get a smoke. not to mention the time it takes to track down a smoke

I just think tobacco is evil shit full stop. I wonder what it is in it that makes the smoke smoother? ( cause I used to find that as well)
Now I only smoke pipes or joints, and if you drag gently and bring the smoke down slowly I never cough.
As I said before, I reckon half the reason you want to put baccy in a mix is that after a while you become slightly addicted to nicotene.

Sugar and vannilla extracts are added to tobacco to make it sweeter.

Along with a few thousand other things too.

Yeah, I smoke with tobacco. But IT WASN'T MY FAULT! YOU BASTARD EASTERN STATES STONERS GOT ME ONTO IT!

We tend to put tobacco in our Joints, purely cause if you want a gram to last you need too . I only started smoking spun cones a year or so ago, thanks to the influence of a mate who came from the eastern states.....To tell the truth I dont find much off a diff between adding and not, sometimes I cough from normal cones, sometimes I cough from spun cones. The only diff really is the "spinner" effect had from the tobacco...and the quickness of the hit kicking in when tobacco is included. This is my opinion anyway I dont understand the poeple however, that dont like the taste of weed....I enjoy it a huge amount

Maynard

Alas, that's the point, Maynard: yes, pot tastes good! Why pollute the taste of Winnie Greens with the taste of Winnie Menthols (or Blues, Golds or whatever)? I can understand the need for people to make their smoke last (povvo mature-age student meself!), ergo I use the pipe. As expansion mentions, dragging it gently does help immensely.

Anyhow*...happy tokin' dudes

Tobacco helps get the marijuana to the blood faster

No man the reason to smoke both in combination is for the high. Joints don't work as well as a bowl. What you gotta do is get an old piece or designate one just for tobacco and weed. DONT EVER USE YOUR FAVORITE OR BEST PIECE IT RUINS THE FLAVOR FOR EVERY OTHER TIME YOU SMOKE OUT OF IT UNTIL YOU BOIL IT!! After smoking a regular bowl or two; do a mixture of about 40% tobacco an 60% weed or 50%-50% (50-50 will get you more fucked up). Have 2 or 3 of your mates with you, and standing up , take the biggest rips you can and pass it around as fast as you can (try to hold in the smoke until it comes back to you). Pack 1-2 more bowls quickly and smoke it in this fashion and you'll have a high feeling like your on ecstasy for 15-45 minutes. You will probably fall down!! Malboro reds or harsher tobacco gives you more intense of a high. Yes this tastes absolutely horrible and almost unbearable but its all about the high. Try this an get RIPPED!!!!

I've always used tobacco in the mix, but only 10-15%. Thats enough to smooth out the smoke through a bong (my preferred apparatus).

I don't know man, I think smoking a tobacco/herb in a bong is just plain wrong. And tastes horrible too ! Plus I would NEVER let any tobbacco anywhere near my bong. I love the taste of Herb !!

I reckon it's just what you are used to. I started smoking weed with tobacco and I can still taste the goodness. But there are always purists that say you shouldn't put mixers in your spirits, or milk in tea or coffee, for instance. And remember there are also some folks that rave about the pleasure of smoking a good cigar( though personally I think they look, smell and taste like burning turds) So if the way you smoke works for you, good on ya, and f*** what anyone else says about it. Long live free choice!

Right on man I'm completely pro-choice B)

Right on man I'm completely pro-choice B)

I smoked bongs for 9 years and coughed and hacked and got pains in my chest etc. Now I've switched to a vapouriser and make cookies and brownies....boy! What a difference! For the good that is. I am more alert, can think better, very little short term memory loss, yet feel extremely good from the actual cannabis, and it still controls my epilepsy and intermittant paralysis, pain etc. as well as it did before....only now I don't get the chest pains, don't cough and don't get red eyes or glazed eyes. What most people get from using tobacco in their bongs and joints is carbon monoxide poisoning and the strychnine, formaldehyde and 4000 other chemicals in cigarettes. Tobacco causes the addiction, tobacco causes withdrawal symptoms much moe than just using plain old cannabis.

i smoke both mix and green. depends on me mood and how much mull i got or if i havent got any ciggys.

but ive only no a few ppl who cant stand mix (they happen to be family)

im a bong girl myself (obvisous) but when i do have the odd joint its mixed, my view burns better.

but at the end of the day i would rather smoke a straight cone then a mix.





Catch.

Yah , I'm a filthy Smoker aye. I want to stop , but then I would have to stop drinking beer , and there is no way in hell that is happening anytime soon.
The only reason I started smokin em is cuz there wasn't enough MJ. And what I had access to at the time was generally very shitty bushweed.Also we were young teens with fuckall money to buy any decent amount.
So for all the reasons listed so far It is used.

Crap weed for the flavour
Wet Weed for the burn.
Not enough weed to go around.
The Hit.
The cough supressant.

I use about 10% , Its such a tiny amount you wouldn't even notice , nearly everyone I've evr smoked with has used spin , and way too much in my opinion , Altho Ive noticed the yungins comin up arent to interested
in the "Evil Tobacco" , Hey , Tobacco is not evil , Its the fucken corporations that make the evil cancer sticks that have made it seem that way.
But anyway , I beleive a little tobacco can actually enhance the flavour of the MJ , sort of like salt does to food , and I'd like to see someone pull a fat cone (Punch It!) of some potent unspun bud ... hey , It happens , but rarely from what I see. Do you guys just toke over there maybe.most US movies I see they seem to toke rather than pull a cone. which in my opinion , is the only way to get stoned.


Well Thankyou for the topic
Bye 4 Now
From Budman.

I used to mix 70/30 but there is no way I'd do it now.

I started to slowly add less and less each week for about a month until I was smoking straight cones. (might be abit harder if you smoke cigarettes too but at least it's a start) A journey of a thousand miles starts with one step

At first (as everyone always says) it makes you cough but you soon learn how to control it and trust me after not long you won't be coughing one bit.

You can also taste the weed when you're smoking it which is far better than tobacco.
And the best part is you don't have nicotine in your system giving you cravings which can involve mood swings etc.

It's been around 18 months now since then.

Well until 1 year ago (shit time goes quick) I used be a chain smoker going through 50 cigs a day yet I never put spin in with my gear even if I only had a stick between 10 ppl. Why? Well not long after I started smoking cigs and pot about 21 years ago a guy I was scoring off made up a mull of 50/50 nice pot and bloody camel spin, now I could smoke cigs straight one after the other no probs but for some reason after a single cone I was told I turned green immediatly then proceeded to throw up That was the last time I used spin.
Not long after giving up cigs I was outta pot with no hopes for any for at least a week and I was under alot of stress at the time so I caved in and bought a pack of cigs, first drag gave me headspins second made me throw up so they went straight in the damn bin.
Honestly I've never felt so good since giving up cigs, I can actually walk a few miles without even losing breath compared to 12 months ago where I couldn't walk a couple of blocks before losing breath. I haven't givin up mj though and never will, however I have started using a Vap during the day and cones at night and have noticed I virtually never cough anymore at all, cones unfortunately taste like crap to me after using my Vap
To anyone using spin because it "gives them a better hit", sorry but thats frogshit, it's all the crap added to cigs as well as nicotine that's doing that, try smoking a straight cig cone and I bet you get a hell of a headspin. Just give spin up and if you're a smoker give cigs up and you'll have more cash for mj so you won't need to use spin to make it go farther

Hey Congratulations on givin up the baccy , Well Done.

Now , about the spin , don't worry bout me guyz , I've smoked 100's of green cones , when I've had larger harvests I've just gotten used to pulling bits of the bud and just toastin em down
Man , I loved that , altho my throte didn't after a while
The thing is with spin smokers , Is I think we all know that the extra hit is from the evil tobacco chemicals , but we just prefer that.
So even in those times where I was just smokin green , I still would probly prefer the hit of a cone with a tiny amount of spin , and It is different for everyone , but it definatley seems to take that harsh scratch away from the back of your throat that (Well that I get) from smokin green cones. Again Its just from what I know from over the years of smoking with predominantly spin smokers.

I like havin a say on this subject , cuz it interests me the different areas in Oz that do and don't smoke spin

O.k. Seeya all later , I gotta finish this Beer and cigarette and go do more generic household Bullshit b4 I chop up another (Lightly spun) Mix.

Cheerz , From Budman.

i find that if i spin my weed, i cough less and can pull bigger cones...

but that's just me...

i've been smoking for 2 years now...i'm 18...i hate ciggies...but what can you do...

no weed...must go out and get some...giving in...slowly...

I just have to add that tobaco makes me incredibly ill, i cough and stuff its disgusting. ill pull a cone and just cough and cough and cough so it really bugs me when people adulterate our beautiful herb with an addictive destructive substance like tobaco. also i cant smoke when i smoke spun.

when i smoke spun ill pull a cone the nicotine will hit and i actually have to put down the bong before i can pack and smoke another and i usually end up never getting stoned cause by the time i feel well again all the weed has worn off.

and nicotine is a stimulant

it increases your metabolic rate

and thus makes you metabolise canabanoids one hell of alot faster.

Don`t smoke tobacco and never have. Makes me sick. But I heard if you are a foreigner in Amsterdam (American) don`t buy pre rolls. They give you mostly tobacco because they hate you for the war and all that. And they don`t like stoner tourists. Go figure.

I also used to smoke tobacco years ago... I actually had to stop something because I was smoking tons of Tobacco AND TONS of weed - at different times. I was a chain smoker with tobacco and am a chain smoker with cannabis. I have NEVER rolled cannabis with tobacco - even if I'm low. I couldn't smoke it together I don't think...?

I also NEVER smoke hash with tobacco anymore now that I've quit smoking tobacco. I like another Canadian who wrote in "dkone" said at the beginning of this post, only smoke hash with weed rolled in to it. That's how we do it in Canada. It's MUCH better this way...

My Humble Opinion...

Love and a Squish,


Alison
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i was a chain smoker

i never mixed then

won't mix now

you must never mix spin

it's disgusting

THE HORROR! THE HORROOOOOOOOOORR!

When I first started smoking up I thought it was weird that people mixed their weed with tobacco. I eventually came around to their reasoning for a few reasons:
1) It makes your stash last longer
2) The headrush of a mixed baccy/weed bong can't be matched
3) Most weed doesn't burn properly by itself
That said, as a result of this I'm now addicted to cigarettes - I'm sucking down 10 a day because I have no sources where I live right now.:(

i do get the urge to smoke a ciggy when im dry but the fact that it just feels like shit in my lungs and no stoned feeling makes me wanna have weed more...

maybe if weed was allowed to grow naturally the way it was suppose to maybe i wouldn't need to use tobacco to make it fucking last