I love em. especially the old, corny, spaghetti westerns. Its hard to think of a more entertaining genre for me.

I got "For a Few Dollars More" in the DVD player right now. Clint Eastwood and Lee Van Cleef. A few all time classic scenes, like when Lee Van Cleef strikes a match on the hunchback in the saloon. And the final showdown at the end has to be the best ever. A simple "draw" showdown it was not. You have to watch it a few times to appreciate fully. For a corny over the top spaghetti Western there is a lot going on.

Other classic westerns:

For A Fistful of Dollars
They call me Trinity
Trinity is Still my name
Silverado
Hombre
The Good the Bad, and the Ugly

probably heaps more but I just can't remember them at the moment

most modern westerns are crap, but I liked Silverado.

oh and although it was a comedy Blazing Saddles ranks right up there

Yeah westerns are great,
Butch cassidy and the sundance kid
Missouri Breaks and the magnificent seven
(spellcheck)
to name a few more

i seen 'blind man' the other week, old b&w spaghetti western, the first one ive seen i think. pretty funny, for a blind cunt he's a good shot.

Yeah I like some westerns - I used to be the indian most of the time as a kid.

Westworld is the best western for stoners.

My old man just ripped " Ulzana's Raid" off DVD onto svcd for me, great movie, anyone remember "Soldier Blue " ?

Yup
What was the name of the actress, she was surely in her prime.

Candice Bergen, had to do a search though

Murphys Law chic huh?

I used to watch that all the time - she was crap in it but I liked the show.

^^ forget all that - bergman != bergen.

You old bastards.....

Pipeman:


Did you like "TombStone", I can watch that movie over and over, great performances by whatshisname and thatotherguy.

**editied**

It was Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday. Perfect.
heres a taste fo the BEST western ever made.

As Wyatt walks up Tyler starts snarling at one of the players:

TYLER
You back that Queen again, you
Son of a bitch, I'll blow you
Right out of that chair!
(looks up, sees Wyatt)
Somethin' on your mind?

WYATT
Just wanted to let you know
You're sitting in my chair.

TYLER
That a fact?

WYATT
Yeah. It's a fact.

Tyler looks Wyatt over, noting he is unarmed. He stands,
sneering:

TYLER
For a man that don't go heeled
You run your mouth kinda reckless.

WYATT
Don't need to go heeled to get
The bulge on a dub like you.

TYLER
That a fact?

WYATT
Yeah. It's a fact.

TYLER
Well I'm real scared.


WYATT
Damn right you're scared. I can
See it in your eyes.

Wyatt steps forward suddenly, eyes cold and hard like a shark.
Suddenly realizing he's in way over his head. Tyler shrinks
back reflexively, his hand moving toward his gun. The other
players scatter. Wyatt nods, his voice calm and steady:

WYATT
Go ahead. Skin it. Skin that
Smoke wagon and see what happens.

TYLER
Listen Mister, I'm getting' tired-

Wyatt abruptly SLAPS his face, making his teeth clack
together.

WYATT
I'm getting tired of your gas.
Jerk that pistol and go to work.

Tyler goes pale, all pretense of courage gone. Wyatt slaps
him again.

WYATT
I said throw down, boy.

Another slap. Tyler stays frozen, blood dripping down his
chin.

WYATT
You gonna do something or just
Stand there and bleed?

Tyler's done. Wyatt plucks his gun away, handing it to Joyce.

WYATT
No, I didn't think so. Here,
Milt. Keepsake, hang it over the
Bar. All right, youngster. Out
You go...

Wyatt takes Tyler by the ear, dragging him across the room
like an unruly child. At the door he gives the ear a twist.

WYATT
And don't come back. Ever.

Tyler winces. Wyatt shoves him out into the street then turns
to Joyce casually:

WYATT
See how easy that was?

yeah mate I think I did like Tombstone. I only saw it once though when it first came out. I don't remember that scene, sounds classic though I might have to rent that baby out and have another look. thanks mate, can anyone else remember a good Western I've forgotton?

Man I wish I knew the name of it - John Wayne is dying of cancer in one of his movies and theres a big shoot-out at the end. I seen it this year but forgot the title. I dont usually like him but he was good in this movie - The Shootist - John Waynes last movie also BTW [bit of a drama but its a manly drama - heh].

I watched most westerns when I was very young so I have no idea what any of them were called.

Satellite tv is showing How The West Was Won at the moment, usually tcm show all the old westerns.

I got tombstone on vid, it's a good one. Another more recent one I liked, I can't think of the name. I know it had Leonardo DiCaprio and Drew Barrymore in it. BadGirls, or something? Not sure
I've seen heaps, mostly Clint Eastwood from memory. Cable tv rocks for that sort of thing, I used to watch TCM all the time on foxtel.

Bad Girls? are you kidding? that was one of the worst Westerns ever made. I'm sorry, but woman have no place in leading roles of good Westerns.

The one with Di Caprio I think was the Quick and the Dead I think. Also had Russel Crowe, Sharon Stone and Gene Hackman. Pretty crappy IMO. Had none of the old school character of the Clint Eastwood's spaghetti westerns.

There was another more modern Clint Eastwood western, which he directed which had Morgan Freeman and Gene Hackman as well. That was pretty good. In fact all Clint Eastwood Western are dead set classics, except Hang em High, that was very average.

Supposedly I look like Clint.

haha, you sure you didn't mishear that?

I have been told I look like a famous film star when smoking a cigar...
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Lassie having a crap.



Loved Westworld? with the mechanical cowboys & Yule Brenner (bald headed dude)

Lee Van Cliff was tougher than Clint Eastwood

Hell yeah, Westworld is a great stoner movie. When the chase is on I was freaking out man!!!

Also, if you are stoned and watch it a few times over the years youll think its a different movie. All good stoner movies should have this quality.

thats a big call budsta

my 2 favs were clint and charles bronson
would love to see a bare knuckle fight between those 2!

My favourite Bronson movie is "Street Fighter"

rattdog, i was only thinking of that movie this morning when i previously replied. must be at least 25 years since i've seen it.
remember the big dude he fought at the end?
his defence was using his big bald head to deflect the punches.

classic movie!

yeah street fighter is one awesome movie. And no kids, we're not talking about that piece of shit movie with Van Damme and Kylie Monogue based on the video game

I'd give Bronson the edge over Eastwood in a fight, just cause he's shorter.

The best fight in a movie imo is the Ali v Foreman AKA The Rumble in the Jungle seen in the doco when we were kings for example, but dramatised figths are shit because they look staged (exception in platoon the fight between the 2 sargents in the village) and wire fights well don't get me started, I liked kill bill because it was like an old skool martial arts film eg bruce lee or old jackie chan etc. Otherwise it looks more like two prrofs dancing (not that theres anything wrong with that)

If Ali V Foreman isnt a Western then I have to chime in. Bloodsport is the best fighting movie and you cannot deny it!

I used to love doing that coin trick Van Dam does to the fat bearded guy after they finished playing International Karate on the arcade machine [I used to love this game before and after that movie]. You know the one where you ask someone to hold a coin in their palm while you snatch it.

It depends on were you are, from here Zaire is west, but it is also east?
Yeah WB I tend to go off travk if given 1/2 a chance soz mate
Yeah but Van Damme? sorry i don't like him much but bloodsport was a good movie I def agrree with you.

bruce lee in enter the dragon would have kicked van dammes ass.

I totally agree. Van Damme is too sluggish to match it with Bruce Lee.

Pipeman, dont kid yourself - Bruce Lee was tiny compared to Van Damme. Dont believe movies - Bruce Lee was great at martial arts but size matters.

Itd be interesting to know how much force Bruce Lee could put into his punches - Im sure Van Damme and plenty of other people could break bones more easilly then he could. Also, how much he could withstand.

wilderbud, I must respectfully disagree. speed matters more than strength with skilled fighters. with your drunken brawl in the pub no one knows what they're doing plus they're usually off their face so size matters. but a skilled fighter can disable a more powerful component very quickly.

Real Bruce Lee style fighting was not what was in his movies. In real life he focused on quick efficient moves and ending the fight quickly. In all real life fights Bruce Lee had they were all ended within a couple of seconds. For the movies he dressed it up and was much more flamboyant and inneficient, and also slower in most cases, to make it look good for the cameras. Van Damme is much stronger but Bruce would end it quickly. Plus I hate Van Damme, he is such a cockhead.

yep i agree, van damme's a stuck up wanker.
the only one that came close to bruce lee was chuck norris.

hey pipeman, do you know if the two ever competed against each other?
i was once told they met in a tournament and bruce lee kicked his ass.

unfortunately i was told by an unreliable source

Van Damme's a bloody ballet dancer, whereas Bruce Lee developed and mastered a completely new and innovative martial art himself.

Bruce Lee took down men several times his size, and had force to his punches you wouldn't believe. Ever seen the one inch punch? Van Damme would last 15 seconds in a ring with Bruce.... yeah right... maybe 10... ::

Bloodsport was some funny shit tho, used to watch that one toooooaaaasted as a teen.

Westerns? Hmmm... Dunno really, I suppose I'd have to say "Unforgiven" would be the best one I've seen, but it's not really my favourite genre...

Does Star Wars count as a western? The galaxy's to the west of here... I assure you. And there was a desert... and gunfights...

Chuck? He looks like he needs to do some weights too.

I dont like Chuck at all. I dont like any redheads actually.

chuck does not come close to Bruce Lee. He was one of the biggest badasses in his day no question, but still I think was too slow for Bruce. They never competed in real life. They fought in a movie so obviously it means nothing.

yeah Luke Unforgiven. Thats the one with Gene Hackman and Morgan Freeman. Fucking great movie here are some classic line. These are not in any order and are from different scenes

Gene: Well Sir you are one cowardly Son of A bitch. You just shot an unmarmed man
Clint: Well he should have armed himself, if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend

Gene: You be William Money from Missouri, who's killed women and children
Clint: Yeah I've killed women and children. I've killed just about anything thats walked or crawled on this earth at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you Little Bill, for what you did to Ned.

Clint: Its a helluva thing killing a man, taking away everything he's got, and everything he's gonna have

Gene: I don't deserve this, to die like this
Clint: Deserves got nothing to do with it
Gene: I'll see you in hell William Money
Clint: yeah
<bang>

Clint: alright I'm coming out, any son of a bitch takes a shot at me, and I won't only kill him, I'll kill his whole family, and all his friends, and burn his damn house down

Clint: (Closing scene of movie) And you better bury Ned right, or I'll come back here and kill every last one of you sons of bitches.

actually all those lines are from the last 10 minutes of the movie I think damn I love Clint Eastwodd, there simply is no equal.

I bet you couldn't guess from all those lines that Clint was the "good" guy

A classic line but I have no recollection of the movie.

Yeah I have seen film of that 1inch punch and heard of movie stars talk about bruce do it to them and it convinced them to learn his form of martial arts, What about Lee v Ali, I think Ali might just take Bruce in that fight. And he was v.fast apparently it was so fast he was a blur on film

yeah syk that'd be an awsome bout
you've got me thinkin now
ali would probably have the hitting power., but lee also had that 1 inch ko punch.
both were super fit
but would bruce have the advantage of being able to use his feet.?

hmmm

I don't think the feet would give him an advantage because foreman was able to demolish the large bag and I mean demolish the biggest heaviest boxing bag not many ppl could do that witha baseball bat and Ali took a few rounds of this on the ropes absorbing, blocking and avoiding while whispering..Is that all ya got george ya hit like a girl george, so I think Ali would just as quick and just as strong and have just as much satmina. So the extra strength from the legs are negated and so is the extra reach as Ali was bigger and so reach would be v.similar. IMO. Imo it would be close but Ali because of size/strength and he fought against real opponents that were the best in the world or next best.

yeah, i was sorta leanin towards ali meself.
now, whatabout a grizzly bear and a siberian tiger ::

you don't have to answer that one,
i'm only being silly

LMAO (for the 2nd time tonight)

We could have a whole thread devoted to what if fights a fav is predator Alien I think I've seen comics of this ?

One of the best fight scences from the point of view of: oh shit am I gunna see a fight with this guy; has to be the yoda fight in ep2 didn't like these latest SW much but I must admit I really luved the end of clone wars and can't wait for the next one.
Whata yoa reckon luke?

predator vs alien was a game for the super nintendo, pretty shit one too.
I love both movie series though, I think predator would win there though. Anyway the thought of ali and bruce lee is funny shit, bruce lee is just a funny noisemaking guy in movies. Ali was best fighter in world.

I like that steven seagul cunt when he plays a badarse retired cop that bashes cunts for no reason, which is almost every movie, and Governor Arnie in Conan, that movie is fucking classic.

WC Lee was a real fighter he had many street fights with cunts that just wanted to fight bruce lee actually it was just like the old west were a gun fighter with a big rep would always have to look over his shoulder for the next dickhead that wanted to be the one to kill him and have that rep. And he had a punch that literally was 1 inch from the target (no draw back) and I saw it send a guy flying across the romom and therewas no FX used, I reckon Lee would kill 90% of boxers but yeah ali was not in that 90%, guys like seagirl and van dickhead are the ones that in a real fight couldn't fight there way out of a wet paper bag without choreographing every move 1st and there is no fight like that IMO
Bruce invented a form of marial arts thats still practised today and is veffective in street fights. I wish I could remeber the source of this, it wasn't the movie about his life but a doco on TV, oh and the asians that I have talksed to about Lee all say he is the real deal, for what ever thats worth.

Bruce Lee - Lost Interview

Man, the 1 inch punch thing is a lie! He put his whole body into jump kicks to make people move 2M - Ali could stand there and do the same with his left arm or stand there and take his full force many times.

Im not saying Bruce was a pussy or anything but he couldnt defy the laws of physics - he was 5' something and Ive got more muscle than he had. He was a great believer of put every muscle into each attack and every thought into each move and followed thorough but Van Damme would have kicked his little arse - so would Ali or Predator.

As for Alien V Predator - the Predator was elite and would have eaten Alien for breakfast even Stallone could have kicked Aliens tail.

If Bruce Lee was so good then why did he learn to use weapons?

To come back on topic...

John Wayne would kick Predators arse without even flinching!

I saw him do it (on TV granted but for a TV interview/show (maybe the one mentioned) and heard jimmy coburn talk about how Lee put his fist an inch from his chest and sent this huge man flying backwards legs in the air and tumbling backwards out of the chair across the room, he said before he saw it he thought it was all BS but he could see what McQueen (getway is a great movie), Norris and Kareem saw etc in this guy.

When he did the punch it was him focusing his "life force" or chi (I think) and by breathing from the diaphram there is some method to this maddness as this kind of thing would literally take years of intense training like those shoalin or Ali, both worked for years at their respective disciplines, BUT the problem with the kind of martial arts in the west as far as I have heard is that their is very little full contact person 2 person fights or that is what i have been lead to believe

Yeah but aliens usually live in groups and if the predator came to hunt them could he underestimate them, like vasques and her fellow marines), my fav line (Aliens) : one of her fellow soldiers: you ever been mistaken for a man vasques (as V does chin-ups), V: no have you

steve irwin could kick both there asses
actually, i think he's a bit of a dick

geez guys, we were having a perfectly mature discussion on Bruce Lee vs. Van Damme and you turn it into something silly like Predator vs. Alien

Pipeman, yeah I think Alien was a made up story too.

Also, I was only joking about The Duke kicking arse. The Predator is the most elite killing machine known to mankind and Im glad Im out of its territory [Africa apparently - the Congo is almost uninhabitable because of this beast].