2DollarBill
Oct 22 2003, 01:37 PM
OK, i have all the supplys to make my bong. All i need is a filter (like from a sink or some thing). But since i a) dont know how to get em out of the sink, and

dont think i have any in my house any way, i was wonderin' if there were any alternatives, or if any one wanted to give me advice. Thanks.
Jomamma
Oct 22 2003, 02:11 PM
post people
mush887
Oct 22 2003, 03:29 PM
i just create a cone shape from cut out metal from a coke can. then poke holes in it with a needle to create the cone piece.
Wilderbud
Oct 22 2003, 04:07 PM
You should really buy a metal stem and cone from a smoke shop [$10] and poke it into a fresh 350ml bottle [small Oak bottle since Orchys are glass now].

If youre desperate then grab a can, cut a 2cm x 5cm strip and wrap it into a cone shape then melt it into the hose so it stays there - dont heat the hose while smoking or youll probably gag and throw it away when youre done so its an effort to make a new one without the right stem+cone.

BTW I made a bush bong a week or two ago as I dropped my cone while walking. Heres what I done; I had a metal stem so I just dropped some rocks into the stem until it looked like a cone size, packed my weed into it and smoked it up - it was better than a normal cone as it wouldnt block at all [I used it for 2 days] although I wouldnt do it unless I was desperate again [Id do this before using a rubber hose + cone as burning rubber isnt good].
Mr Nice Guy
Oct 22 2003, 04:38 PM
Sorry If I sound like a cunt..... BUT FUCKING GO AND BUY A REAL BONG.... Once you start smoking with a real bong you won't go back.... I fucking can't stand smoking from coke bottle bongs anymore they are so shit..... 30$ will get you a half decent bong (Kicks ass over a coke bottle)
ITS WORTH IT!!!!!!!!
And you shouldn't use alluminum cans for cones unless you like inhaling toxic chemicals... same with alfoil
Eo the Stoner!
Oct 22 2003, 05:17 PM
use a pipe or joint, what does it matter?
but what would I know? i'm just a beginner stoner
white_cluster
Oct 23 2003, 01:00 AM
Using tap filter/ guaze cones is horrible, needs cleaning all the time, the ash dont actually go through.
Get yourself to a ciggy shop and buy a cone, they cost about 3 bucks.
2dollarbill
Oct 23 2003, 01:31 PM
I live in the US buddies, i dont think it is exactly legal for me to buy that, especially since you need to be atleast 18 to buy tobacco, which i am not. Plus i dont trust internet sold bongs (giving my adress to some one) because they could be feds and im paranoid. So really, i am kinda screwed buying the cones n shit, but i did just make one out of a thimble (spelling?) for sewing.
Tom
Oct 23 2003, 03:24 PM
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especially since you need to be atleast 18 to buy tobacco, which i am not.
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daBilbo
Oct 25 2003, 12:03 AM

Hello down under ( or on top depending on point of view...

)
1.Go to a hardware store and buy the screens. cheap
2. A bong is SOOOOO much better than either a pipe or joint (they have their place dont get me wrong...)
3. I agree that a REAL bong is so much nicer than most homemades. We used to have such a selection here (US), but since they are now banned, I am lucky to have the one I have... I used to have such a nice two chambered one... the ex broke it for me:(
daBilbo... soon to join here!
2dollarbill
Oct 25 2003, 01:28 PM
sorry man, just stumbled onto this site from searchin google for some thing. Didn't read the terms and such.
d_amo
Oct 26 2003, 01:57 AM
i reckon that you cant go past a proper metal stem (thick type the thin ones block up too quick) and a proper cone & some sort of smallish plastic bottle that is comfortable to smoke from. i dont know how many expensive creamic bongs ive bought and dropped i think 3 or 4 now,

.
also you dont have to waste time cleaning the bong, just get a new plastic bottle.
Babybear
Oct 26 2003, 07:44 AM
As i killed all my bongs i use home made now , i use a proper cone an stem thou , i not buyin any more this yr , Mabie next ,
But yr i just cut little hole then mel;t round it a little poke it threw a bottle
white_cluster
Oct 26 2003, 08:14 AM
ceramic bongs are shit anyway, can't see in em, can't clean them very good, smash easy.
Get yourself a nice thick pyrex bong.
Its better than smoking through your garbage.
I like large double chamber bongs, that hold alot of water, these orchy bottle bongs don't even go through 1inch of water usually, rip my lungs apart.
For you US guys, You should stop smoking through that mesh shit anyways, Its bad, especially if your using garden hose as a stem. Get some cone pieces from Canada or Europe sent over.
FUCKOFFWANKERS
Nov 12 2003, 06:39 PM
i would rather smoke through a skunks ass then a coke bottle without a proper stem or cone peices there so fuking shit they looks shit, they cool like shit and most of them are hardly fuking airtight yo have to cover the bottle with bluetack and that can be good for your lungs
once youve experinced a pyrex bong you can never go back, although i do like to make weird smoking shit while stoned i dont use it
skankmaster
Nov 13 2003, 08:32 AM
Aaaah, after reading that i am stoked not to be a yank living in the us, paranoid about buying a bong? sheeesh... I can get bongs of any size/shape/form from my local tobacconist two minutes from my house!
God i love Australia....
weekprik
Nov 13 2003, 01:18 PM
hey man nothing wrong with ceramic bongs, you just got to make sure that you clean them with a bong product, something like "no pong bong" etc,
yea you cant see in them but if you clean it before you use it, then hey no worries.
Whats the difference between seeing the shit and not seeing it? easy if you can see it, then you usually clean it before using it. but really if its maintained correctly then the ceramic is just as good,
Now that said, I prefer the pyrex, and wouldnt smoke a ceramic bong again after this but shit man a bongs a bong,
cheap home made one have their purpose too, that being you can throw it away after using it, so you dont get busted for a bong if you do get busted.
My days of hom made bongs is well over, but I still enjoy a home made bucket bong with my mates from time to time,
IMO pyrex is the best, followed by ceramic then trashy home made bongs,
I would rather smoke a shit smoke through a shit bong than through a joint, at least then at least some water filters the crap.
d_amo
Nov 13 2003, 01:37 PM
i reckon home made bongs are ok, but #1 they have to be airtight #2 they have to be comfortable to smoke from #3 they have to be clean to start with e.g not fishing your bottle from your bin, and #4 use a proper metal stem and cone, you can taste the difference between a metal stem and some old bloody garden hose. i agree coke bottle bongs are shit. i like to use a 250ml orange juice bottle and i dont usually use a lot of water in my billys probably about a cm or 2 of water just enough to take the hotness out of the smoke.
sampson
Nov 17 2003, 01:16 PM
QUOTE(2DollarBill @ Oct 22 2003, 01:39 PM)
OK, i have all the supplys to make my bong. All i need is a filter (like from a sink or some thing). But since i a) dont know how to get em out of the sink, and

dont think i have any in my house any way, i was wonderin' if there were any alternatives, or if any one wanted to give me advice. Thanks.
brother all you gotta do is get some plyers and unsrew the bottom of you sink fosset... those suckers should pop right out. And if you don't have any metal screens one alternative is a glass screen you probably don't have one but a small pebble or stone will work just fine, just drop it into the bowl so it covers the hole and you are set.
But remember don't use tinfoil thats nasty buisness.
peace
Pete
Nov 21 2003, 10:39 AM
meh, screw coke/juice bottles, get the thick plastic ones like powerade, melt a white circle with a lighter and force yer stem and cone in there and it'll be completely air-tight. burn another lil hole for the shotty and yer ready to go.. takes 2 minutes, works everytime once ya get the hang of it. good for car billies or wen yer truely desperate, however i would strongly reccomend you go about getting a good ol' glassy. local tobacco station $20AU for a large glass billy with a cone piece
PHdOwnUnder
Nov 21 2003, 03:32 PM
bucket bongs are best i reckon
poke the cone piece thru the lid of a 2 litre soft drink bottle. (not coke, coke is evil like macdonalds)
Cut the bottom off the bottle and throw it in a bucket of water.
Works the same way as a rocket but doesnt waste water and smoke.
Chev
Nov 21 2003, 09:18 PM
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bucket bongs are best i reckon
:

: That's how I usually smoke pot, been using a bong for the last couple of weeks though. Good to have a break from them
Tom
Nov 21 2003, 09:23 PM
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been using a bong for the last couple of weeks though
Good to see that you are becoming more civilised in your smoking methods chev. :

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BONG ON
Nov 22 2003, 07:41 PM
how do you make ice bongs?
syk613
Nov 22 2003, 07:43 PM
I realise this thread is about bongs but after smoking them for years and buying a hot plate vape 4 $100 recently I know I will never go back to smoking if I can vape, I find I get a lot more stoned than if I smoked 10 x as much through a bong, actually it is akin to my 1st time really, a little trippy and the best anti-depressant afterwards I just feel totally euphoric. I highly recommend it and hey much better health wise also.
BONG ON
Nov 22 2003, 07:56 PM
how do vapourisers work?
syk613
Nov 22 2003, 08:23 PM
OK basically at 200C THC vaporises and so if you apply heat to your mj at 200 instead of burning the mj at a higher temp with a lighter you don't get all the carcinogenic TAR and the CO which decreases a persons ability to cary O2 in the blood stream so we get puffed easier etc and are more likely to suffer from ischeamic heart disease ie lack of oxygen to heart muscle leads to damage and perhaps heart attack and death, this is the problem with any kind of smoke. It causes cancer by damaging DNA and also a number of other effects like those discussed above.
You end up getting a very hard to see vapour that tastes nothing like smoking, after vaping smoking makes me dry wretch now so I am a complete perry when it comes to billys after just a couple days of vaping.
That being said I have seen posts by some respected members saying they don't like them.
Here is a couple of links to online shops with vapes also some baccy shops have them and there is a thread about vapes named paraphenalia that can be found through the search fn at the top. There is a better description of vapes at the 1st link
http://www.freewheelin.comhttp://www.hydroshop.com.au
d_amo
Nov 22 2003, 09:43 PM
i used to have a vaporiser, it was nice to smoke from but i thought it took a bit long to get up to temperature & everything to vaporise ( i think it took a cpl minutes between vaps). it plugged straight into the mains and had a switch for the element, was pretty big with a glass "globe" and a ceramic base. i had it for about 3 snips then bloody dropped it.
syk 613: what sort of vape do u have? how quick is it to vaporise?
syk613
Nov 22 2003, 11:14 PM
Yeah man I have one like you described, it has 2 hoses, so I end up doing a double barrel vape most of the time and it has a little red light , inside the ceramic base near the hot plates stem to show it is on, so you don't leave it on accidently and burn yourself. I think one member here who shall remain nameless made this mistake and pointed it out in a post.
Yeah mine says wait 5-8mins in its instructions but I start toking after I start to taste it and I don't mind waiting 2 mins to have a toke but it does take a few mins to have one bowl but I do get far more smashed off only a v.little bit like 0.1g or less whereas before I would smoke 1/2 g of good bud to get just stoned and that would be as stoned as I would get off a bong, Anyway I luv my vape it is like rediscovering mj. Seriusly tho it is the closest I have gotten to the psychomimetic LSD-like effects described by some when taking a pure 9-THC preparation (IMO).
pipeman
Nov 23 2003, 07:04 AM
yeah that was me that burnt myself. I took the glass cover off but forgot to turn it off. Next morning I picked it up by the element
its a sturdy little thing though, I've knocked it around and dropped it a few times, but its still going strong. over a year old now I think.
BONG ON
Nov 23 2003, 03:53 PM
R they all around $100 cos i cant be fucked spending that much on a vape
syk613
Nov 23 2003, 04:07 PM
For about $20 you can get a glass bulb type one that you use a lighter on at
http://www.hydroshop.com.auIts in after the harvest section. But do you use tobacco? because there is your 1st saving, then I find it far more economicala couple of small bowls or 1 large one and I am completely off my face whereas with a billy my tolerance meant I would be hardly aware of being stoned I LOVE VAPES and $100 is nothing I would have payed $500 if I had known how GREAT they were. BUT this is IMO and some don't like them so it is personnel preference, but I won't ever got back to the dark ages of smoking. That being said it is hard to master I think I am still not quite getting the best results no red glow of smoldering but not as good as a hot air vape for $400 or the volcano $1000 (all i want for xmas is my volcano)
And yeah $100 is about the cheapest I found for a hotplat model but you can always DYI I think someone may have a thread on how to make one here at OS. Cheers mate and goodluck
toka honis
Nov 27 2003, 03:12 AM
QUOTE(daBilbo @ Oct 25 2003, 12:05 AM)

Hello down under ( or on top depending on point of view...

)
1.Go to a hardware store and buy the screens. cheap
2. A bong is SOOOOO much better than either a pipe or joint (they have their place dont get me wrong...)
3. I agree that a REAL bong is so much nicer than most homemades. We used to have such a selection here (US), but since they are now banned, I am lucky to have the one I have... I used to have such a nice two chambered one... the ex broke it for me:(
daBilbo... soon to join here!
im a beginer will some 1 tell my how 2 make a pipe an easy pipe plz
Wilderbud
Nov 27 2003, 04:03 AM
OK here goes with my dodgy 1 cent hash pipe.
Find a paper towel roll and rip all the paper off or find one thats been used. Poke a hole in it and wrap alfoil around the roll where the hole is then push a bit of a cone into the foil where the hole is and poke a couple of tiny holes in the cone. you can use a bit of the paper towel to filter the end of the pipe you smoke through so you dont get all the shit in your throat and lungs and palm the other side.
This is only an emergency pipe so get yourself a real one soon - a big one like what I just described so you dont pull burning ash into your throat and give yourself ulcers [which can start cancers]. You shouldnt smoke through aluminium but I dont know what else you could use in an emergency - check the toolbox for a small socket if you want but itll probably let air through and make you choke.
Water pipes are more healthy - get a foot-long in these also as the smoke is still hot through a bong unless its a double chamber.
tram jaw
Nov 28 2003, 01:42 PM
QUOTE(2DollarBill @ Oct 22 2003, 01:39 PM)
OK, i have all the supplys to make my bong. All i need is a filter (like from a sink or some thing). But since i a) dont know how to get em out of the sink, and

dont think i have any in my house any way, i was wonderin' if there were any alternatives, or if any one wanted to give me advice. Thanks.
if its a screen u need just go to ur local head shop...they'll have what u need
niall
Nov 28 2003, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(BONG ON @ Nov 23 2003, 01:55 PM)
R they all around $100 cos i cant be fucked spending that much on a vape
How much do you spend on pot? Do you value your health?
It's worth it, it really is. I could never go back to burning raw cannabis unless it's the occasional joint when I'm out and about.
MaTtEr
Nov 29 2003, 06:28 AM
QUOTE(2DollarBill @ Oct 22 2003, 01:39 PM)
OK, i have all the supplys to make my bong. All i need is a filter (like from a sink or some thing). But since i a) dont know how to get em out of the sink, and

dont think i have any in my house any way, i was wonderin' if there were any alternatives, or if any one wanted to give me advice. Thanks.
All u gotta do is take some tinful and use it. make it the size u want and poke a couple wholes in it~!
Luke Skywalker
Nov 29 2003, 10:10 PM
Alfoil will oxidise quickly when used as a cone piece. Not a good idea.

Unless you
like aluminium oxide in your cones....
syk613
Nov 29 2003, 10:12 PM
or
step1: go to tobacconist
step2:: ask-4- "a cone"
step3: pay for said cone
srep4: put the cone in your stem (the narrow tube (can also be bought)that pokes into the bottle).
Step5: pack ya cone, smoke it and enjoy.
ashhash
Nov 30 2003, 11:06 AM
OR
Go to your local hippy/jewellery/bong shop...
Man everyones got one of these shops with the red-eyed hippy chick selling crazy shit....and bongs
Someones already said it but damn I love Australia!
Fuck home made bongs also....Agung all the way
Guest
Dec 1 2003, 03:27 AM
[B][COLOR=yellow] ok, so lyk, my freind was tryin 2 teach me how 2 make a water bong out of a 2 liter bottle, but he was on the fone & is lyk, a bad teacher, so, could n-e 1 please explain 2 me what i need & how 2 do it?? (an easy way please)
syk613
Dec 1 2003, 09:21 PM
Dude I don't want to be a dickhead but have you used one before, have you had pot before, if both answers are no then try a joint 1st,
If you still want to persist then I can only say be careful, but here goes
get a 600ml plastic bottle (I like a dare milk drink but some juice ones are good too) but not the coke ones imo they are shit not a 2L one that is your 1st problem there,
get a tube like garden hose and cut a bit off like about 30 cm (then shorten later)
now from the base of the bottle go vertiaclly towards the top and stop when you get a 1/3 of the way up, do you dig?,
now make a hole in your bottle BY LIGHTING A MATCH AND STICKING IT INTO THE BOTTLE. Now make the hole a little bigger with your scissors and put the garden hose in the bottle, you must seal the bottle and tube,
Now when you put your thumb over the end of the tube, your STEM, and suck on the opening to the bottle if it is hard to draw air you have a seal, if not get blue tac or anything, candle wax is a very bodgy method used by old hippies without electricity Now where the stem joins the bottle that is where the AIR is getting in, seal the holes by putting the blue tac or wax around the stem at the bit where it goes into the bottle,
YOU HAVE A BONG
optioanal make a shotty
If there are parts you dont understand then ask and refer to them specifically as this is a v.detailed description of how to make a bong imo and try calling it something different in public slang iis good that way mate. draws less attention billy always worked for me but that is a little obvious imo.
Wilderbud
Dec 1 2003, 09:55 PM
Hehe, I remember smoking up with some guy one time and he pulled out a 2L job with hose and bluetack - I just ripped the hole bigger and walked to the shop with the hose and cone to get another and have mobiles because his house was boring also. I was thinking this guy was a narc until he smoked up because he couldnt make a billy but I was hanging for a smoke so I didnt care.

The 2L was his dads bong and he gave me crap when we got back for destroying it but I shouted him and it was all cool - he smoked leaf and kicked us both out after the session - freak.
I miss being carefree sometimes.

My first smoke device was a pen and alfoil - never do this! Im glad I figured out how to make a bong.
Wilderbud
Dec 1 2003, 10:01 PM
Just go to the shops and get some rollies|papers|tally-hos [all the same thing] and roll a bunger. I doubt youll make a decent bong without being shown how.
Also, how the hell did you get weed without knowing how to smoke it? Thats crazy - my first smoke was a fat roach.
syk613
Dec 1 2003, 10:10 PM
Yeah I agree with WB if you haven't seen one before then it can be difficult to use actually that reminds of an interesting story I have about a dickhead that I knew years ago but he is a famous dickhead or actually semi famous well actually hes been on tv but no one would know his name, dougie the pizza boy, the original one that was on water rats, anyway years ago when he was at school apparently the story going around the traps was that when he was smokin up with the ppl from his school he was offered the 1st cone, after saying how he had smoked a lot in the past, and when he went to smoke it he used the stem, and of course got a mouthful of bong water, dumb motherfucker,
Wilderbud
Dec 1 2003, 10:30 PM
Hahaha - what a tardo.
I remember before I smoked any weed at all I seen some guy drawing a bong to show another how to smoke weed [years before I smoked - real young] and we had a big argument about what end you were supposed to smoke it from [Im pretty sure we worked it out in the end because someone said you put the weed in there so how the hell can you suck on the weed and burn it at the same time -

]. It was obvious that noone in the group had smoked a bong before but we all said we had at the start of the argument - funny stuff now that I remember it.

I cannot remember smoking my first bong at all - must have been good weed.
syk613
Dec 1 2003, 10:49 PM
I got into it because a mates mum was stashin a growers weed in a box that was about 80cm sq and maybe 80 cm high, and apparently it was full but all I know is we got alot of free heads(granted it wasn't great) .
So when I started it was free but they went out one night and got busted with about a 1/2 and for a shit load of other things and that ended it as his mum found out of course, oh well the life of a 14 yr old, mate I got some and the 1st time was in a park in the east of sydney in some bushes it was a choice between a biddy (i think they were called) or a joint, and the rest is history,
I was anti drugs at that age even tho my folks both smoked in front of me and my dad had said to me a few times if you get offered drugd and want to try them come to me and I'll get some and we'll do it in a safe environment, so it was basically peer pressure as I had no real interest before and hadn't even really been drunk at the time of my 1st joint but was an instant convert..
dexo
Dec 6 2003, 05:04 AM
ceramic & glass bongs are nice but ive spent $$lots$$ on ceramic or glass bongs--I even brought plastic ones and one of them smashed!. some ceramic bongs are shit thou--designed to look good but not be used
see, i decided that having carpet was a bad idea for me--not only do i smoke copious amounts of weed, but im also a grot. My house is floorboards[living area], tiles[bedrooms], marble[barthroom] or slate[gamesroom]. bongs tend to smash alot here, so fuckit i smoke with a shrunken 600ml drink bottle, its airtight, it works, it dosint look pretty but im putting stickers on it to not have to listen to people complain about me not having changed the water in ages...
this is what i smoke with nowdays.
first time i smoked weed was out of a tap we made into a pipe--hey we were only 10 [diddnt get properly into it untill highschool].
pipeman
Dec 6 2003, 09:46 AM
I remember my first bong like it was yesterday. A group of clueless high school students who had never seen MJ or a bong in their life. This one guy supplied the bong and the weed and was telling us all about it. I remember it tasted like shit, made me cough and I didn't notice any real effects, but we were all drunk at the time so who knows. I didn't become a stoner till about 10 years later when by a total fluke I sampled some really good gear.
and as for Dougie the pizza boy, I remember a news story a little while back, maybe a few years, that he got busted with pot. So after he worked out how to use that bong he must've liked it! :

:
now that I know how much fun the herb is, I can't stop. but I don't try to convert people. At the end of the day being a stoner is a drag. It costs time and money to grow, limits what you can do socially, limits the amount of time you can be away from your house, puts you in the shit legally. (forget about being busted, what if your house burns down and your insurance company tells you to jump off a cliff because you had grow lights). and for something that takes up so much of yourt time whether it be smoking it or growing it, you can't really talk to anyone about it, which is real frustrating. sometimes I wish I hadn't discovered the good herb, but whadaya gonna do? time to load up the vape :mellow:
Spurious
Dec 6 2003, 10:07 AM
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