we all know,..and a lot of us use Kazaa to download music,..software,..etc.

what maybe not all of us know is that Kazaa has spyware onboard! it also has annoying ads popping up.

KazaaLITE is called "LITE" becouse it has been "cleaned" from the spyware and has no adds in it, BETTER!
..............maybe you all knew this allready , I hope so, but for the ones that didn't know this, it's not so hard to save your allready downloaded stuff from the Kazaa shaired folder into one you make on your harddisc,..uninstall Kazaa, and download KazaaLITE instead. it's the same program,..the same features,...only without the adds and spyware.

there's different versions to choose from at http://www.kazaalite.com/

when that's down, go to http://www.kazaalite.nl/

..there's also a lot information and other downloads, forum and all you want to know about KazaaLITE at :

http://www.k-lite.tk

......also good tools to get rid of spyware, adware, dialers, etc...
Audio and video codex? also there!
Supertrick? cool!
and a tip: check out the "links" page.

i have found that kazza lite has jsut as much spy wear as the other works no better, an is slower for some reason
But i guess it all personal prefernce

just as much spyware???? don't think so!

slower possible, I have never tryed the "original" version but with my sdsl connection I wouldn't notice anyway.
and did you check out the "speed up" function? it's much improved compaired with the original,....guess it's personal yes,...anywayzz there's really NO SPYWARE in the "LITE" version, believe me there.

i use imesh with no problems and you can opt out of adding spyware if you read the installation instructions. its not as flash as the rest but it works very good (dial - up here) and you can get everything ( movies,pics,progs,games etc.)
imesh.com

i can confirm that kazaa has spyware bundled with it, but kazaa lite does not. although, u may need to double check during installation as it may ask you like imesh does.

other than that, you can always set up a DC++ server with a bunch of warez-healthy friends! No viruses or trojans here since it's not being run by some money-hungry software vendor. I've been on a (private) dcc++ server for the past 12 months and have not touched a p2p client since:

http://www.neo-modus.com/

The reason i said that kazza lite has spy where is that when i uninstalled it i had found kazza related spy where on the putter which i found un usall , as when unistall all should go an nuffin should apear.
But all spy where has a perpus , some not even a worrie

but if you know about what your downloadin an how to use it , its fine.
just use ad aware to know for sure an be safe , but if ppl so worried about stuff they shouldnt keep bad stuff on pc ,

kazaa lite is good, no spyware... but i personally use Soulseek to download music,, a lot more variety

having had imesh kazza and kazza lite gotta say kazzalite wins hands down as fo being slower than kazza crap what u been smokin dude

i have used kazaa but never found it good enough, sometimes i donlaoded movies and eneded up with something i didnt want, people use to change the names for no reason dont know if that still happens, mirc is the best by far so many channels so many server and bots cant go wrong unless u piss someone off. other then mirc i use winmx but very rarely, i use it to find a single song im after and thats it, mirc has the latest of just about everything and most people are legit and help out alot with serving and stuff like that, mirc 4 life 4 me nothing else come close to mirc in my opinon, my 2 bob...

Don't you guys ever feel just a tiny bit guilty about using these things?

Nope

luke skywalker, no i dont why would we ? we can either go broke paying for it in shops or get it for free, no guilt from me i love all this free stuff...i got over 300cds full of movies/ albums/ skatevids/ tv shows / its great if i was to pay for all that i would be living in the gutter, not guilty

Spyware licks balls!
I used to use Kazaa until I learnt about spyware.I now use Adaware 6 to scan and remove spyware regularly.I use WinMX for downloads sometimes but not often.It does not have spyware - at least , the last time I used it , it didn`t.
I`ve never used Kazaa LITE but have heard that the spware has been removed but these versions are `unofficial` variations of the original software and there are many different versions.I don`t see why somebody ,who could remove the spyware features, would not be able to add some of their own spyware in it`s place.Of course , you may as well have the full Kazaa version if you must suffer spyware.

Whilst we are on the subject you might like to try emule also...

It has a better range of files than Kazza and you can even search for ISOs and DOCs too, as well as all the usual crap. It uses the edonkey network - beats the edonkey program by a mile. Can be a tad slow if not many ppl are sharing the same file, but definately worth using.

http://emule-project.net

Also IRC always has a good selection of files too... you can usually find what you are looking for there too.

http://www.mirc.com

Chief

whats best for dialup?? I use grokster but find it causes me to crash alot,

I think if it was your intellectual property being stolen and traded around you may view things differently. If this is your attitude, why pay for groceries when you could just stick it in your pocket and take it for free?

Sorry, but this is screwed up.... I'm all for freedom of information, and the internet has really allowed people who otherwise wouldn't have much of a voice, to have a say and get their points/views/feelings across to the world. But programs like Kazaa are nothing short of theft. Think about it.

Just thought I'd throw that into the mix....

In some places it's not illegal to obtain a copy of something for evaluation... personally, I don't see anything wrong with filesharing programs... I think the only people who should be worried about their copyright being violated are idiots who didn't create anything really usefull anyway... I see it more along the lines of robbing from the rich and giving to the poor... there's too much uneven distribution between the haves and the have nots these days.. It's simple, If you create something usefull and beneficial to society, then you'll make money.. simple... It's only greed and incompentance that makes people worry about everybody stealing from them..

Didn't your mother teach you to share? I know mine did!

Anyway pass the bong around.

*sigh*

luke i think theres a big difference between leaving home and going to a shop and stealing groceries think about it. u sound like a guy who owns a music shop ? so what if we take whats on offer for free instead of paying for it who wouldnt, your telling me u would rather pay for something that we can all get for free ? well good for u how bout u try out for prime minister and set a good example. and if u think the net is so screwed up why do u use it so much then ? i think your just confused and u probly have 56k which makes it hard for u to be happy with the net, u say kazaa is nothing short of theft , yes thats right and why hasnt kazaa been shut down then ? ? ? and along with the many other places to get this free stuff, luke if u think that stealing on the net is the same as stealing in a shop your 1 messed up dude, we like free stuff u dont its simple go pay for it then and have fun.

It's not free, it's pirated.

I have nothing against freeware, if the legitimate author wants to give away their hard earned work to the world for nothing, then that's their prerogative! It's a good thing. But when someone puts their heart and soul and effort into producing something, and they want to make a living out of it, that too is their right and prerogative, and they are the ones who own that intellectual property. They take out a copyright, and then anyone who quotes or reproduces his/her work either has to get permission from the copyright holder or pay a royalty.



No, I don't own a music shop, but if I did, I'd lament the state of piracy making it even harder for musicians who pour their soul into their music from making a legitimate buck. When you take something that would normally cost you otherwise IT IS CALLED STEALING! Yes, I have thought about it. Lots. You obviously haven't.

No thanks, I'll leave that to those most suited to political life. ::



Uhm, when did I ever say that the net was screwed up? Or that I wasn't happy with it? I simply said that this was screwed up. Sites like Kazaa and Napster aren't anything more or less than a black market. To pretend otherwise is a little naive.



Okay, so first you agree that kazaa is theft, and then you try to excuse this by arguing that it hasn't been shut down, so it isn't theft? I think you are the confused one, not me. They will shut them down when they can. The slimy bastards have got a ton of lawyers and built their programmes to only allow sharing between the users p.c., with no actual data storage of the illegal material on their servers. This makes prosecutions hard, because thousands, if not millions of people are subscribed to these services. But they will shut them down, because otherwise the whole copyright system will eventually collapse, and intellectual property rights along with it. No one will share what they know, because the authors aren't guaranteed that their effort will be worth it.



Listen to what you just said. Stealing is stealing. Full stop, end of sentence. If you take something that doesn't belong to you, without permission and do not pay the price they sell it for, then that is theft. Where you get it doesn't matter. If an item has copyright, then that's it. It's their work, and they are entitled to be paid for that. If you don't like it, then don't ever write a book, or make any music, or take any pictures, or do any research on anything, or publish anything at all, and expect to be paid for it. By your way of thinking, I can just tell you to get stuffed, I'm having it for free so naaaa!

The fact that you cannot differentiate between freely offered material and freely, though illegally and immorally, available material, shows who here is messed up.

did i say prime minister hahaha i should have said cop you would make a great pork sandwich.. i use a simple place called mirc which is totally legit for as u say stealing albums movies etc, u wanna no why its free and not stealing ? cause bill clinton signed an agreement for it so stick that in ya pork pipe n smoke it, but i guess when i do dowmload from places like kazaa and winmx that may be stealing ? do u really know whats free and whats not ? u really are confused hey ? u must be now.

I think you confused everyone, including yourself with that one....

::

you have no idea about mirc do you ? u seem to know alot about everything else so why do u have no clue on mirc ? and yes you are confused arent you cause u think u know it all but you know nothing besides some lame copy right rules we all already know how copy right works but thx for explainging every lil detail, you have no life or were u that bored ? get over it we like free stuff and u dont its all good just go back and sit in your lil music shop and think of bad things to happen to everyone that gets free stuff, go bitch slap your punching bag let it all out u big girl, yes stealing is stealing damm your pretty smart what else could it be ? damm wake up who really cares well we know who, but we dont need u saying or blah blah people miss out on some money boo hoo get over it. sodry sheds 2 tears for luke the force will be with u oneday lil man i smell pork

By joining this channel you agree that you're not affiliated with any government, police, anti-piracy group, RIAA, MPAA or other related groups. If so, by entering you're not agreeing to the terms and you're violating code 431.322.12 of the internet privacy act signed by Bill Clinton in 1995. You can't enter & may not threaten or prosecute anyone in this channel! this is mirc luke pork skywalker pitty u dont know it all like u try to....

Been using kazaa lite for a while now...had no problems with it...also tried direct connect but I dont have enough files for ppl to let me transfer anymore.......

Its all stealing plain and simple......no ifs no buts......

I used to use audio galaxy....man that was good (cept for the spyware).....so many files.....

I really only got into dl songs when I couldnt find any in any of the sotres I went into...such as Pop will Eat Itselfs...dos Dedos Mi Amigos....the 2 cd version.......no one had it...second hand or anywhere....

Calling someone a LEO is a serious thing to do mate, and I would ask you retract that statement please. It's not only offensive, it's ridiculous.



One, I am not affiliated with any government, police, anti-piracy group, RIAA, MPAA or other related group.

Two,If you want to quote a law, you should try to show a link to the actual text it was taken from. In this case, I think you're going to find it hard to see it on the books.... Show me anything that proves this law exists. I don't mind being proven wrong, not at all...

Three, what the heck makes you think I don't know what mIRC is? I think you should maybe look at your post, inspect it for intelligibility, and then post again.

Four, I do not know it all, I have never said I know it all, I never will say that I know it all.

Five, why does this subject irk you so much? Maybe because you do feel guilty about doing what you're doing? Methinks thy doth protest too much....

Look, once again I say, I do not have any problem with anyone who wishes to make their work available for free on the internet. I love free stuff too, but if I find out that it's been pirated, I'd rather not thank you, and I merely expressed my opinion that you may feel the same way if your intellectual property was stolen and used without permission or recompense. Why is this such an issue for you? This isn't about rich vs poor, it's got nothing to do with that.

And thank you Field of Light, for agreeing with me, at least on one point anyway. It's all stealing, no if's no buts. I'm not telling you to stop, I'm just telling you what it does, I can't make you do anything, now, can I?

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here SoDry'sBro, I don't want a flame war, that doesn't acheive anything. I'm not going to back off from my opinions though, just as I wouldn't expect you to back off from yours.

And don't call me a pig. It's not cool.

thats nice u can count to 5 and use large words im amazed, good for u luke may the force be with u...

I didn't read all these posts but just wanted to add my 2c, sorry if this has already been said.

IMO its not stealing, its sharing. If you invite a mate over your place to watch a DVD you bought, is that stealing? If you lend him the DVD to take with him, is that stealing? Not IMO.

As long as people are not distributing for profit, I don't have a problem with file sharing.

IMO its not stealing, its sharing. If you invite a mate over your place to watch a DVD you bought, is that stealing? If you lend him the DVD to take with him, is that stealing? Not IMO

Actually yes it is stealing as its against the copyright of the DVD, But guys for fucks sake were here on a cannibis website talking about how we are breaking the law downloading songs???

POT IS ILLEGAL just incase we all forgot ,

My view is if I can get it free I WILL, Taking something from a business is cool with me as long as you dont take stuff from a personal basis,
Business EG- MUSICIANS have insurance against theft, also I download songs etc and burn them to listen too, but if I really like whats on the CD I will go and buy it,

This is on a CD I own. I bought it off the musos. Cos they asked I won't copy it for anyone.

But lets face it, how much of the money you spend on a CD from a shop, especially a major label CD, actually goes to the muso and the people involved in creating the music.

How much music, written by muso's is owned by the record companies that put out the music. Heaps. How many young up and coming bands get screwed by record companies? Fucking heaps. Screw the bastards, the music industry is a rotten cess pit with some of the slimiest bastards I have ever seen, or met. (Not everyone in the music industry of course.)

If musos put their music straight onto the web with a minimal distribution fee or none, and there was a charge to download the music, and the profits were kept by the people that made the music I would make sure I paid for as much music as I could afford, probably everything that I listened to.

Intellectual copyright law is a joke and whatever protection it once gave the originators of the copyrighted material has disappeared into a mess of corporate privellege (Latin for private law did you know) and theft. It has become so corrupt and dodgy it is almost a duty for every decent person to break it as often as possible.

Just my opinion. BTW I am not a failed muso, I genuinely think the music industry sucks. At least the crap music, unoriginal brain dead slop shop that is most mainstream commercial music.

Movies and software "may" be another issue, but probably aren't.

Whats the go will kazza this is all that comes up every time i go to the sites...

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free?? man to save hassle would anyone have a copy of kazaalite they could send me?
the amout of website sayin they have klite is not funny is this is what i get every time , PAY to be member grr i know there gota be a link or site out there somewhere thou i erd kazaa were tryin to shut down kazaalite

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/34393.html

This weekend users of Kazaa Lite K++ learned that almost every download site of the popular peer-to-peer file-sharing application had disappeared, including the links on its own home page.

Sharman Networks, the company behind the original Kazaa, approached the ISP of every website that hosted the program and ordered its removal on grounds of copyright infringement.

Kazaa Lite K++ is one of many light versions of the popular file-sharing program, but it wasn't developed by Sharman Networks. K++ was set up to offer a version free of the growing amount of spy and adware within the original Kazaa Media Desktop Program. In exchange for installing Kazaa Media Desktop without charge, the GAIN Network and Cydoor spyware will show you online ads. Remove these add-ins and Kazaa simply won’t work. Kazaa does offer an ad-free Plus version for $29.95, but naturally, most Kazaa users preferred the free versions widely available on the Web.

Although there are still plenty of sites where Kazaa Lite can be downloaded, the program may no longer function properly, according to Slyck.com. Kazaa Lite is based on a Kazaa version prior to 2.5. Therefore a current supernode (a computer that contains a list of some of the files made available by other Kazaa users) in the Kazaa Network will not accept its shares. "The speed of the application will pummel to the ground and (drive Kazaa Lite) out of existence," a user notes.

As expected, most Kazaa Lite fans are gnashing their teeth. Here is an attack from Slyck.com: "This latest act from Sharman punctuates a long history of hypocrisy that involves the protection of their own intellectual property rights, yet blatantly ignoring the copyrights of others."

Many Kazaa Lite users will probably divert to other Kazaa clones, such as GIFT, which connects to the Fasttrack, Openfasttrack, Opennapster (old Napster) and Gnutella networks. Still alive and kicking is also the Diet K add-in, which removes all spyware from the original KaZaA Desktop without crippling it. ®


so guys sound like unles su have a copy or one from a mate you cant download it (

haha i cant belive u still cant find it....

pm me your email and ill email it to u...
ohhh i forgot u your on 56k ..

Respect
Ele

I always use PeerGuardian when running filesharing progs.I also use it when I boot my machine.It will block the biggest part of the snoops from connecting to your machine at any time.The websites are below.If one is down one of the others will be up.I also use the BlueTack Blocklist Manager to download the blocklists for it as it will contain a lot more than just the PeerGuardian blocklist.And yes, the prog does in fact work and it works well too.

PeerGuardian websites:
http://xs.tech.nu
http://methlabs.org
http://peerguardian.net

BlueTack Blocklist Manager:
http://www.bluetack.co.uk

Kazaalite is not spyware free and if you belive it is then you should learn to investigate things to the core instead of just acepting general information . DId you know that originaly kazaa claimed to have no spyware eigther ? I have done extencive testing on 90% of the major filesharing applications and your best option is learning how to find good torrent reasorces or closed network hubs. provided your sitting behind a firewall your fine If you have the means a dedicated box is your best bet but not everyone has old machines lying around so something like sygate would do fine

Kazaa is a highly exploitable aplication and I do not adivse people use it if you are really attached to GUI style peer to peer apps then try emule which is based on the edonkey gnutela product it has holes and exploits but not as many are available to general public and the fact that Kazaa lite is out of commition now means they will not be patching there holes

so what spyware is present in k-lite?, never had a problem with it. i use 2-4-3 and for a dial-up connection, i get fair speeds out of it. as for e-mule and shareazaa, most e-donkey type setups...hopeless compared to the new k-lite setup. i measure performance on one thing...PERFORMANCE...the others are so glitchy and full of dud files, it aint worth it. kazaa is also constantly being patched up by ppl working in the background. mines stable as, rock-solid. the only drama with k-lite is the turds on the forum. trust me, if you cant or dont use IRC, get kazaa lite.

JAIKAI

I have been on the side of the Hosts with Kazaa servers there is spyware in kazaa lite the difference between the new spyware and old syware is that it has addopted different tech's that scanners don't k up on
just like Kazaa's original spyware before it became poublicly known that they use spyware .. it's like a virus if it's not made well known then it never makes it onto the scanners lists ( the exceptions are spyware that take charictoristics of spyware which this generally does not) it is not too harmfull and I am not arguing I just think that people should know the truth about the software they use.

I would agree with you comments on Edonkey it'self but emule is quite stable and usefull if you have a good list of servers .. ( the ones that it comes with and the ones that are auto picked up are shit ) I personaly don't like any GUI P2P software . the best stuff is on IRC, FTP, bit torrent, and best of all private networks , ( if your lucky enoguht to find one )

well...there you go ay, what sorta spyware? my thinking is for such an open-base p2p to work, somethings gotta link it all together. could be completely wrong too...shit, i just learnt how to cut and paste, the other day i made a couple mp3 discs...tell youse, i was rapt. even hit alt-g and the titles came up. pretty fancy ay... anyways if you can remember the old msdos days, IRC is a breeze...basically you just gotta remember a couple command prompts and youre on your way to d/l`ing anything you want...no fakes, no dummies, no joke.

like i said though...some of us poor souls are on dial-up and pulling 10gig a month is totally out of the question...ive tried though...but yeah, kazaa works okay though. ay pure, tell us some background on yerself, givus some more puter info mate...

JAIKAI

I recently was advised to try Bit Torrent, What a waste of space that crap is

Its really slow but the idea behind it is ok, I have Cable internet so downloads of 10kbps is just total bullshit.

I used to use Grokster but its full of adware crap now.

So whats the best way to use up my cable time, I have the fastest cable connection available and unlimited downloads but I just cant find any decent places to download apps and games from???

look around on mIRC

JAIKAI

yep mirc is one of the best , u can also connect to channels via packetnews.com and ircspy.com and u can search whats on the bots of mirc through those web sites aswel u will need to download and install mirc first though dont pay for it u can find the key for it on mirc,, make sense ? hope so read it a few times maybe haa..

sorry the people at suprnova tend to throtle their shared bandwidth because most of them are end users who only want the file for themself and don't want to waste any presious megs on uploads the speed of transfer on bit torrent depends on a few things

A) your share level ( what upload speed you have set and max upload numbers )

the amount of people with the file online at the time

c) the amount of bandwith those people are allowing you al to use


bit torrent works wonders in good comunities where people share unquestionably Usually get speeds over 200 for the latest movies and around 100 - 70 kb for older or less common files I generally get that from private networks but have from suprnova aswell
I was using bit torrent since it was called slasher and only the blackhats and crackers used it so I have gotten to find a few helpfll places but provided you have a good comunity of sharers your speeds are great ( far supior to those of kazaa)

I do think IRC and FTP are better tough ftp is just insecure as hell


but each person likes there own thing and as long as it works for you thats all that matters. a small tip though to thoughs kazaa users DONOT SHARE your pirated goods ie software ect kazaa is a very vulnerable program for scanning shares and thats all they need these days to take you to court for it and I am talkig about end users aswell it's not just the crackers and pirates themselfs these days

my background is not that important I'll just leave it as I am what the NSA call a Cyber terrorist and the name Pure is on a few handel lists ha haha but I have grown a little now I currently specialise in General Networking from design to locking it up from potential threats and then maintaining.


if you have a computer, telephone, game console question just post it up or catch me in the chat room to pick my brain about it




as for your spyware question sorry that ones a coders secret and there are a few holes that would close if the knowlage became public the coders have made it to be posible to disable and it "stands out" in the code with a seperate colour but you need a decompiler and to do a little reverce engeniering not to mention some visual c knowlage. the way the app works now if you deleted the file kazaa would no longer work and you could posibly stuff up your Internet Explorer .

haha, dont worry pure, i will i aint no techead yet, but i will be one day. and thats just to speak with the young bloke...right now the pooda`s in limp mode so...ah you get that mate.
catch ya...

JAIKAI